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RE: Jelly Bean accessibility info request

From: Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:22:02 -0400
Message-ID: <418a51e38e348eab48ed0dfa30a137da@mail.gmail.com>
To: WAI Interest Group <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
[Roger wrote] I am experiencing great inconsistencies in how they handle
different sites and apps.



We got a Nexus 7 phone and updated it to Jelly Bean (4.1.1) last week.   My
co-worker has the tablet and has similar feedback.  The support is much
improved and the screen reader support definitely feels much more like that
of iOS (with some differences).  However, I have experienced the same
issues with the ChromeVox browser that comes installed (with the script
feature turned on).    Because the browser is running these scripts based
on navigation it seems to have several issues:



1.       The navigation in the browser is sluggish

2.       Sometimes when navigating nothing is announced – especially in
paragraph/group navigation mode

a.    Perhaps this is a timing issue.

3.       Editing and using the keyboard are an issue

a.    Eyes-free keyboard does not appear to be compatible with 4.1.1

b.    The lift finger to type mode doesn’t have a delay like the iOS touch
typing mode which makes it difficult to type as unwanted characters are
easily entered.  Moving away from the keyboard to avoid entry can cause
focus to leave the input field

c.    There is no double tap/split tab typing mode for the keyboard



There are some nice additions such as the visual focus indicator (Orange on
my phone) and internal apps like the home screen are now accessible.  I
haven’t had time to try all of the built-in apps yet.  The settings screens
appeared to me much more accessible and the additional of large fonts is
welcome.  The new voices are great – the default voice reminds me of the
one from Oratio.



Jonathan





*From:* Roger Hudson [mailto:rhudson@usability.com.au]
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 25, 2012 3:15 AM
*To:* 'WAI Interest Group'
*Subject:* Jelly Bean accessibility info request



Hi



I am trying to learn the accessibility features in the Google 7 Nexus
tablet which uses Jelly Bean. The Talkback screen reader and explore by
touch seem pretty good (and much better than earlier Andriods), but I am
experiencing great inconsistencies in how they handle different sites and
apps. For example I am finding Twitter hard (almost impossible) to use, but
Gmail is fine.



Also, there does not appear to be a lot of information about using Jelly
Bean Talkback, although this video by TV Raman and the Google team is
pretty useful - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3HliaMjL38&feature=plcp



Anyone got any suggestions about where I can find some more practical
information and demonstrations about using Jelly Bean talk back.



Thanks

Roger



*Roger Hudson*

Web Usability

Web: www.usability.com.au

Blog: www.dingoaccess.com

Twitter: http://twitter.com/rogerhudson

Email: rhudson@usability.com.au
Received on Wednesday, 25 July 2012 12:22:34 UTC

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