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RE: examples of sites with good accessibility

From: John M Slatin <john_slatin@austin.utexas.edu>
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:30:42 -0600
Message-ID: <6EED8F7006A883459D4818686BCE3B3B03A8F902@MAIL01.austin.utexas.edu>
To: "John Foliot" <jfoliot@stanford.edu>, "Michael S Elledge" <elledge@msu.edu>
Cc: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>

You're right that there's no keystroke in JAWS (or Window-Eyes, or Home
Page Reader, or HAL) that would allow the user to query the title
attribute of a specific element. And I for one think it would be
incredibly useful, though it would need to be coupled with some kind of
indication that the title attribute is present to be queried (a chime or
bong or beep would work, at least for me). I submitted this as a feature
request to Freedom Scientific a while back, so of course I'd be
delighted if they implemented it in JAWS 8.0.

JAWS *does* have a fature, in the Sound Manager, that allows the user to
tell JAWS to watch for the presence of the title attribute. And you can
tell it to play a sound or say something when it finds the attribute.
But so far I haven't been able to figure out how to make it say anything
except the word "title"-- which is more annoying than anything else.

But it seems like the *pieces* of the solution are (almost) in place.

"Good design is accessible design"
John Slatin, Director
Accessibility Institute University of Texas at Austin 1 University
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Austin, TX 78712, USA
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Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 12:19 PM
To: 'Michael S Elledge'
Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: RE: examples of sites with good accessibility

Michael S Elledge wrote:
> This raises another question: Is there a technique or keystroke 
> combination that a screen reader user can invoke on an ad hoc basis 
> (i.e. as they are reading) that provides them with the longer 
> description if the link phrase isn't sufficient? That would seem to be

> very useful and true to WCAG 1.0 intentions.


In checking with my JAWS power user, he informs me that currently, this
is not available, although it may be included in the next version of
JAWS.  You are right it would be useful.

He and I had a brief conversation about this, and he suspects that most
users, even daily "power-users" rarely switch from the standard install
default, which is to read the ALT text only.  There are a number of
different configurations however, so your mileage may vary.

I quickly (very quickly) set up a test page (www.wats.ca/test1.html)
which he is going to run through and I will post his feedback shortly.

Received on Monday, 30 October 2006 20:30:56 UTC

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