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Re: examples of sites with good accessibility

From: Michael S Elledge <elledge@msu.edu>
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:03:34 -0500
Message-ID: <454668A6.3050207@msu.edu>
To: John M Slatin <john_slatin@austin.utexas.edu>
CC: John Foliot <jfoliot@stanford.edu>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org

Hi John--

I can't imagine anything more annoying than to have something tell you 
that there is information present that you can't access. :-)

I hope they do put it in 8.0!


John M Slatin wrote:
> You're right that there's no keystroke in JAWS (or Window-Eyes, or Home
> Page Reader, or HAL) that would allow the user to query the title
> attribute of a specific element. And I for one think it would be
> incredibly useful, though it would need to be coupled with some kind of
> indication that the title attribute is present to be queried (a chime or
> bong or beep would work, at least for me). I submitted this as a feature
> request to Freedom Scientific a while back, so of course I'd be
> delighted if they implemented it in JAWS 8.0.
> JAWS *does* have a fature, in the Sound Manager, that allows the user to
> tell JAWS to watch for the presence of the title attribute. And you can
> tell it to play a sound or say something when it finds the attribute.
> But so far I haven't been able to figure out how to make it say anything
> except the word "title"-- which is more annoying than anything else.
> But it seems like the *pieces* of the solution are (almost) in place.
> "Good design is accessible design"
> John Slatin, Director
> Accessibility Institute University of Texas at Austin 1 University
> station Stop G9600
> Austin, TX 78712, USA
> Phone +1.512.495.4288 Fax +1.512.495.4524 cell +1.512.784.7533
> email jslatin@austin.utexas.edu
> www.utexas.edu/research/accessibility/
> -----Original Message-----
> From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] On
> Behalf Of John Foliot
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 12:19 PM
> To: 'Michael S Elledge'
> Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> Subject: RE: examples of sites with good accessibility
> Michael S Elledge wrote:
>> This raises another question: Is there a technique or keystroke 
>> combination that a screen reader user can invoke on an ad hoc basis 
>> (i.e. as they are reading) that provides them with the longer 
>> description if the link phrase isn't sufficient? That would seem to be
>> very useful and true to WCAG 1.0 intentions.
> Mike,
> In checking with my JAWS power user, he informs me that currently, this
> is not available, although it may be included in the next version of
> JAWS.  You are right it would be useful.
> He and I had a brief conversation about this, and he suspects that most
> users, even daily "power-users" rarely switch from the standard install
> default, which is to read the ALT text only.  There are a number of
> different configurations however, so your mileage may vary.
> I quickly (very quickly) set up a test page (www.wats.ca/test1.html)
> which he is going to run through and I will post his feedback shortly.
> JF
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