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Re: Are we really still talking about Access Keys?

From: Access Systems <accessys@smart.net>
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 12:30:31 -0400 (EDT)
To: Tina Holmboe <tina@greytower.net>
cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0506021226420.20111@smart.net>

On Thu, 2 Jun 2005, Tina Holmboe wrote:

> On  2 Jun, Access Systems wrote:
>
> > but so far no one has been able to make one that "really works", oh
> > one will work sometimes, with some software, on some sites but so far
> > it is a non starter, except for the incessant rants
>
>   Well ...
>
>   It's really a case of two issues. First, the implementation. We can
>   all[*] agree that so far a staggering number of user-agents have
>   fouled up in how they implement access keys.
>
>   The second issue, however, is one of content - and this is where
>   things go wahooney-shaped. We could lobby to have a default set of
>   link types defined so that an UA might give the user access to
>   different links via built-in mechanisms.
skip content
>
>   A serious implementation, however, could easily create any number of
>   ways for users to access the access keys. They just ... *don't*.
>
can't fault the analysis, seems to be a reasonable assumption.

>  [**]
>   Yes, browsers who follow Lynx' footsteps can also "list all links", but
>   a "list all links with access key" functionality would give a shortcut
>   to links which are important - or which the author *think* is
>   important. No way we can avoid THAT conundrum. What such a function
>   could do, however, is perhaps weed out all the "regular" links so
>   that, say, navigation links become much easier to get to. A document
>   with a couple of hundred links but only a few labelled with
>   accesskeys?

yes and I don't see Lynx becoming less popular among the "command line"
group of folks anytime soon...

I guess the really important point is that there should NEVER be a link
that will only work with access keys but should in addition work via a
normal type link following standard methods.  and user side agents should
always take precedence where someone has set them up.

Bob


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