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Re: frames and no frames content

From: David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 23:27:33 +0100 (BST)
Message-Id: <200505182227.j4IMRX504815@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org

> My question is: where frames are unavoidable due to technologies used,

I can't, off the top of my head, think of cases where frames are 
unavoidable, and that seems to be borne out by the fact that most
major portals ceased using them several years ago.  If this argument
were acceptable here it could be used to undermine almost every
accessibility guideline.

> Also as a side query, does anyone have any stats on browsers used that
** do not understand frames.

That's the wrong question.  I think you mean which browsers don't 
display frames as IE does.  In which case the answer includes:

Lynx (displays frame names as links)
W3C's own Amaya (more or less the same as Lynx)
WebTV (gateway converts to tables)
Most if not all PDA and mobile phone browsers.
All non-visual browsers, except tactile.
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