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Re: Table used in place of list

From: Elizabeth J. Pyatt <ejp10@psu.edu>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:10:39 -0400
Message-Id: <p06100506bd2edebde3dd@[128.118.8.31]>
To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>

This may not be a JAWS problem.

If each FAQ item is in its own cell, then that's what happens when 
screen readers read cells row by row, left to right.

If each half of the list is in one cell only, then the new version of 
JAWS should read the first cell, then the next cell. However, it has 
to be in Tables mode for that to happen.

The accessibility principle is that content in table cells should 
"linearize" correctly, that is make sense when cells are read left to 
read, top to bottom. IF that's not possible, then users need to to 
add axis and header tags to get the order correct (more trouble than 
its worth for this scenario in my opinion).

Also, Section 508 specifies that all data tables have TH tags for 
data headers and include a SCOPE = row/col attribute.

Cheers

Elizabeth

At 12:25 PM -0400 7/29/04, david poehlman wrote:
>My first stab says that jaws is rong and should be corrected, though, it's
>not a serious issue in this instance.  My second stab is that linariability
>is critical so if something does not properly linarize...
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Sailesh Panchang" <sailesh.panchang@deque.com>
>To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
>Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 12:17 PM
>Subject: Table used in place of list
>
>
>I came across a two column table that  lists ten text items (actually FAQs)
>numbered 1 through 10. Items 1 to 5 are in the first column and items 6
>through 10 are in the second column. I regard this content as a an ordered
>list that should be represented with ol and li tags in stead of in a table.
>JAWS for instance reads the table items in this order: Item 1, item 6, item
>2, item 7 and so on. Navigating it as a data table (with default reading
>options) results in first row and first column  contents  being announced as
>headers.

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