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Re: Re[2]: Full text online: Accessible Web Typography - an introduction for web designers

From: Jim Byrne <j.byrne@gcal.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 10:12:49 +0000
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Message-ID: <BC467621.2323C%j.byrne@gcal.ac.uk>

Hi Andrew, Mike, Geoffrey,

Thanks for the feedback.

The discussion about problems with em units (and the % workaround) are
discussed in the chapter 'Problems with the use of CSS relative units' at

And you are right - the site that the book is published on did not conform
to the advice contained within the book. An oversight on my part which I
will get fixed.

 All the best,

on 2/4/04 1:33 AM, Andrew Kirkpatrick at andrew_kirkpatrick@wgbh.org wrote:

> Just as a quick answer to solving *this* problem with IE, (there's
> apparently a lot more problems :) if you set the size of the font as %
> within body, and use ems elsewhere, then IE only shrinks text down to a
> certain level under (view -> text size -> smallest). So, allowing that you
> don't make the body size % too small, you can use ems and not have this
> problem with IE.
> As an example, and purely just for this!, our site:
> http://www.signify.co.nz
> uses "font-size: 76%;" within the body and ems for all other sizings.
> Reducing text size in IE to "smallest" still allows me to read the text -
> albeit that it is small. Whereas in Jim's example that you referred to, I
> couldn't read anything.
> Owen Briggs has a huge set of images of text sized different ways on his
> site:
> http://www.thenoodleincident.com/tutorials/box_lesson/font/index.html
> This demonstration is entirely visual - no alt on the images. He comes to
> the same conclusion as Mike about ems and %'s.
> Andrew
> Andrew Kirkpatrick
> Project Manager, WGBH National Center for Accessible Media
> 125 Western Avenue
> Boston, MA 02134
> 617.300.4420 

Your website can be beautiful and accessible.
Visit http://www.mcu.org.uk - and find out how.

New, recommended eBook: 'Accessible Web Typography - an introduction for web
designers' at http://www.scotconnect.com/webtype.php
Received on Wednesday, 4 February 2004 05:13:51 UTC

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