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RE: NVU, child of Mozilla Composer (Windows & Linux)

From: Geoff Deering <gdeering@acslink.net.au>
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 10:53:37 +1000
To: "David Woolley" <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <NBBBJPNFCLNLAADCLFJBKEEMGLAA.gdeering@acslink.net.au>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Woolley
> > What seems to happen here is that the developers are working
> with the actual
> > code they are generating.  But it seems the same is not apparent when
> > hypertext marked up is generated.  In the tech books I read, the HTML
> Programmers need to produce proper structures for the programs to
> work, but
> graphic designers only need to produce the graphic design in the visual
> form they expect, on their display, to consider things to have worked.
> (A programmer is expected to consider all possible inputs and outputs
> withing the specification limits.)

My point is that when programmers design a code generator for a specific
programming language, given all the UI inputs from the designer, from what I
have seen, the code is usually of very high quality.  Applying the same
process to Web based tools, given the ability that the above has great
success in generating high quality code, the same qaulity is not true of
code generated in web development environments.  Why is this so?

> > I also feel it's really important to have a free OSS companion WYSIWYG
> > editor out there for users to be able to update sites that have been
> > developed by standards compliant developers.
> Amaya should fullfil this role, although there is a fundamental problem
> that you can force people to produce syntactically valid code, but you
> cannot force them to produce semantically valid code when the result
> is being judged against an intended visual presentation, and only on
> a limited selection of software.
> Note that Amaya lacks various market "essentials", like scripting and
> a frames visual presentation of framesets.  It also lacks some
> CSS features
> that are desirable as alternatives to frames and layout tables.

I haven't looked at Amaya in a long time, but last time I did I was not
impressed.  When I have time I'll look at it again.

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