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Re: 'Blind for a Day'

From: david poehlman <poehlman1@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 21:57:31 -0400
Message-ID: <001c01c43c7b$7bafa890$6501a8c0@DAVIDPC>
To: <sdale@stevendale.com>, <jim@jimthatcher.com>
Cc: <joeclark@joeclark.org>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>

I agree with Seven here.  In addition, I'd add that it can also help low
vision users to be able to see the navigational aids.  I also want to point
out that home page reader is only one voicing application and while it can
provide an interesting and unique experience, it can and does not provide
the full and rich set of possible experiences good and bad available to the

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Dale" <sdale@stevendale.com>
To: <jim@jimthatcher.com>
Cc: <joeclark@joeclark.org>; <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 8:42 PM
Subject: RE: 'Blind for a Day'


    This guy seemed to actually use the screen reader instead of trying to
test something with it.  Indeed that is very unusual.  He suddenly was
keenly aware of the problems and not trying to just get his website by
with the minimum amount of work needed.

     True, he may be right on from a blind user's recommendations.  He
still misses the mark for most mobility impaired users who would like
the use of skip navigation that he so elequently stated as useful but
hidden.  Hmmmm not getting my point?  What was his complaint about
hidden in CSS...  If you can't see the skip navigation while using a
switch as input you cannot use it and therefore are stuck yet again.
Accessibility, though very beneficial to blind users, should be
available to ALL users.


Jim Thatcher said:
> Joe,
> It has nothing to do with verbosity settings. His recommendations are
> absolutely right on; every one. He did mention putting main content near
> the top because "the thing I hated the most was having to blast past
> five hundred links in a sidebar in order to get to the actual content."
> I am impressed with how well this guy understood the problems of
> listening to web content. Very unusual.
> Jim
> Accessibility, What Not to do: http://jimthatcher.com/whatnot.htm. Web
> Accessibility Tutorial: http://jimthatcher.com/webcourse1.htm.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] On
> Behalf Of Joe Clark
> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 1:36 PM
> To: WAI-IG
> Subject: "Blind for a Day"
> Bloggeur tries out IBM Home Page Reader and shares tips. He should
> learn about verbosity settings, though.
> <http://www.mojombo.com/archives/000034.html>
> --
>      Joe Clark | joeclark@joeclark.org | <http://joeclark.org/access/>
> Author, _Building Accessible Websites_ |
> <http://joeclark.org/book/> Expect criticism if you top-post
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