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Re: Bobby user checks

From: Carlos A Velasco <Carlos.Velasco@fit.fraunhofer.de>
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 11:20:35 +0200
Message-ID: <40878E63.9090705@fit.fraunhofer.de>
To: Helder Ferreira <hfilipe@fe.up.pt>
Cc: David.Pawson@rnib.org.uk, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org

Hi Helder,

On 04/22/2004 11:01 AM, Helder Ferreira wrote:
>>So what do you do with (maybe even a majority of sites) which don't
>>have the document type declaration? Validate to loose 4 dtd?
>>  Or be strict SGML and fail it because it doesn't have the declaration.
>>
>>regards DaveP
>>
> 
> 
> In my opinion, the validation tool should fail, pointing out that a
> declaration is missing, and should give an example of what the webmaster
> should include! A link to W3C links that explain HTML and XHTML declarations
> should be nice too.

imergo reports the missing declaration, and still validates against the default. 
When managing a big Web portal, it might be the case that someone has simply 
"forgotten" to insert the DTD in the CMS template (or even worse, insert a 
non-existing DTD), which is a very frequent case in our experience.

> The idea should be to "force" web developpers to stick to the standards and
> code web pages right. Also, the validation tool should provide explanation
> and examples. And it should fail if the markup doesn't validate properly!
> 

We agree in the fact that web developers shall stick to standards. However, it 
is also good to provide additional information against some user-defined 
default. It is not very helpful to say "Sorry, pal. You forgot the DTD. Bye!".

Regards,
carlos


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