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Re: link in new window debate (was "Special message to website cr eators")

From: Info at ATutor <info@atutor.ca>
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:58:38 -0500
Message-ID: <3FBA79EE.3050303@atutor.ca>
To: David Poehlman <poehlman1@comcast.net>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org



David Poehlman wrote:

>Opening any new window can be distructive.  It seems to me that it is much
>simpler and cleaner to keep us in the same window.  
>
For you maybe.

But what about others who can benefit from being able to have two 
windows open.

Imagine a skilled developer who knows about accessibility and usability 
issues:  you'll never convince that person that new windows should never 
be used.  She might listen if you were to say "minimize the use of popup 
windows because I get lost when there are too many of them", or,  "let 
me decide if I want popups or not". Hardcore denial only causes 
developers to put up their defenses and as a result they will likely 
ignore your pleas to get rid of popups. I would expect you and the 
developer to adapt a little. 

As that skilled developer I can not deny those who can benefit from 
being able to see help in a new window while they work in another 
window. Many, if not most sighted users would prefer this over having to 
switch back and forth with the back button.

>If a new window is
>opened, I have to remember that it is there and I have to go back and forth
>between two windows if I want to read them. 
>
If I have a short term memory disability, I won't be able to remember 
the instructions unless they are open in another window alongside. It 
works both ways.

> It's much eaiser and cleaner to
>use the back and forward buttons of the browser to achieve the same result
>among other ui features.  
>
You don't need a back button in a help popup. Only a "close window" link 
at the top so  you know you're in a  popup. It's when you don't know 
you're in a popup window that disabling the UI features becomes a problem.

Opening external URLs in a new window is a different story, but again a 
developer wants to keep you on his site. Denying them  new windows  will 
on raise their  defences.  Ask them to open all external URLs in the 
same window as a happy medium everyone can live with.

with all due respect
greg
Received on Tuesday, 18 November 2003 14:58:38 GMT

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