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Re: Using Frames - what problems do screen readers have?

From: Julian Voelcker <asp@tvw.net>
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:30:06 GMT
To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Message-Id: <VA.00000b6b.0dc69604@tvw.net>

Hi Jim,

Thanks for the feedback.

> Frames are (or can be) presented to users of screen readers as a list
> (INS+TAB for Window-Eyes, INS+F9 for JAWS and CTRL+E for HPR); the text in
> the list should specify the purpose of the frame - like "navigation" and
> "main content." I hope and believe that both Window-Eyes and Jaws will use
> the title attribute of the Frame element in that list if it is present. HPR
> currently uses the TITLE element of the frame page.

OK, that's useful to know.

> The biggest problem with frames (as far as access goes, not counting
> bookmarks etc.) is the fact that IE has it wrong.

Would it be possible to 'fix' it using Javascript to let the loaded page grab 
the focus?

(That's something else I need to know - do screen readers just ignore 
JavaScript or do some attempt to follow it?)


Julian Voelcker
Cirencester, United Kingdom
Received on Tuesday, 18 November 2003 04:30:13 UTC

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