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Re: User agent support of SUMMARY attribute in tables

From: David Poehlman <poehlman1@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 19:25:43 -0500
To: iris <iristopa@yahoo.com>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Message-id: <00e601c2c275$f77928b0$6501a8c0@handsontech>

you have your explanation already.  tell the sites that proclaim your
failure to test with something that truly reports accessibility?  That's
what I do all day long.  I test for accessibility so If I report on a public
site that your site fails It will fail to be accessible.  I of course would
only report that to you though because publicly flogging someone without
first at least giving them a shot at making changes or deffending their
actions is patently flawed and the wise and weary consumer will call them
out on it every time.

----- Original Message -----
From: "iris" <iristopa@yahoo.com>
To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 7:13 PM
Subject: RE: User agent support of SUMMARY attribute in tables



--- "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> wrote:
> For layout tables, we might take the pragmatic
> approach that omitting
> summary attributes is the simplest way and won't
> cause protests except
> from checkers.

i wish it was that easy and normally i would only care
about making a website truly accessible no matter what
the automated checkers say.

but then my boss, who hired me as an accessibility
expert, says, why doesn't our site pass the bobby
test?  i might spend a few minutes trying to explain
my decisions to him and might even succeed.  but how
do i defend myself against a publicly available report
on the accessibility of higher education project
websites where one of my sites is listed as failing
bobby.

i have applied numerous (what i consider) hacks to
please bobby just so that my sites *look* accessible
to outsiders.

i'm not blaming bobby and its makers, they wanted to
supply a useful tool to web designers and that's what
they did.  it is not a tool for people who have no
understanding of the details and only look for the
'bobby approved' or 'repair needed' graphic.

iris



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