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Re: User agent support of SUMMARY attribute in tables

From: David Poehlman <poehlman1@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 09:42:48 -0500
To: Harry Woodrow <harrry@email.com>, "'Scarlett Julian (ED)'" <Julian.Scarlett@sheffield.gov.uk>, "'W3c-Wai-Ig'" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-id: <00a801c2c224$88f6ebd0$6501a8c0@handsontech>

it has been stated on this list that hpr also honors the summary attrib and
also that window eyes either does or will.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harry Woodrow" <harrry@email.com>
To: "'Scarlett Julian (ED)'" <Julian.Scarlett@sheffield.gov.uk>;
"'W3c-Wai-Ig'" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 9:00 AM
Subject: RE: User agent support of SUMMARY attribute in tables



Summary will say nothing...the user agent will if it has been programmed
to do so.  If the user agent cannot recognize a summery table isnít it
time to consider amending the User Agent guidelines rather than base all
our comments on what Jaws will do?

Harry Woodrow

-----Original Message-----
From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of Scarlett Julian (ED)
Sent: Wednesday, 22 January 2003 9:57 PM
To: W3c-Wai-Ig
Subject: RE: User agent support of SUMMARY attribute in tables


> the difference here is that while alt="" shows nothing,
> summary="" will
> still say summary.

I hadn't realised that. That would annoy the hell out of me given the
prevalence of pages using layout tables. I retract my original preferred
solution and say screw Bobby and go for not including a summary. The
point
here is not to satisfy someone's idea of what constitutes an accessible
page
(e.g achieving Bobby compliance) and actually create a page that works
for
people. I nearly wrote a ranting response yesterday along the lines of a
guideline being just that and not getting caught up in the rigidity of
satisfying validation tools but thought better of it....maybe I should
have
:-) That's my two pennies for today (and I fully expect to get
semi-flamed
for this)

-J.


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