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Re: Forms

From: Angela K Hilton <angela.hilton@umist.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:54:08 +0100
Message-ID: <1055843648.3eeee5406b35d@webmail1.umist.ac.uk>
To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org

Thanks for that David - it clears things up a lot.

I was sure that I had seen an example of a form using alt in that way - I 
could be mistaken.


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Angela K Hilton
Web & E-Learning Officer
UMIST
Tel: 0161 200 3389
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Quoting David Dorward <david@us-lot.org>:

> On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 09:33:00 +0100, Angela K Hilton wrote:
> 
> > Am I correct in thinking that the <label> == <id>?  Or is it actually the
> same 
> > as <name>: I have always set "name" and "id" as the same thing.  But what
> I'm 
> > not clear on is which property a screen reader would read.  
> 
> The name attribute is for associating the form field with a name on the
> server.
> 
> The id attribute is for associating things (labels, css, javascript) with
> elements.
> 
> The for attribute of the label tag associates a label with a specific
> form field (via its id)
> 
> (And name couldn't be used for this, because you can have multiple
> form fields with the same name but different labels, such as a group
> of radio buttons)
> 
> >   <input type="text" name="lastname" accesskey="L" tabindex="1"
> id="lastname" 
> > alt="Last Name">
> 
> > I am also having trouble getting the alt tag to work.
> 
> HTML doesn't have an alt tag, do you mean the alt attribute? Why do
> you want to provide the browser with alternative content for use in
> the event of it being unable to display the form field? There is a
> reason that there is no alt attribute for the <input> tag in HTML.
> 
> http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/%7Eflavell/alt/alt-text.html
> 
> I suspect you are looking for a tooltip effect in common browsers, and
> that is achieved with title (although as its properly labeled, it
> seems rather redundent to me).
> 
> http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/global.html#h-7.4.3
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> David Dorward                                     http://david.us-lot.org/
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> 
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