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RE: New Window inform

From: Steve Vosloo <stevenvosloo@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 12:19:58 +0200
To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <000001c25b0f$1d5964b0$130310ac@theijunction.icelogic.co.za>

In summary, some user agents that create a list of links for a page do
not open those links in pop-up or new windows, so including the warning
as part of the link would not be correct. Other user agents
automatically inform the user of pop-up or new windows, so including the
warning as part of the link would result in a double description, e.g.
"Link: Microsoft, opens in a new window. Link opens a new browser
window."

Until a workable solution is found, it seems the best is to leave it up
to the user agent to inform the user of a pop-up or new window. 

If we have good motivation for an action, as above, do you feel that one
can still award Level-AA compliance even though this checkpoint has not
been strictly adhered to?

Steve





> -----Original Message-----
> From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Lloyd G. Rasmussen
> Sent: 10 September 2002 09:14 PM
> To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> Subject: Re: New Window inform
> 
> 
> 
> A Windows user can go into the Start, Settings, Control 
> Panel, Sounds applet and assign sounds  or earcons to the 
> "open program" and "close program" events.  Good sound 
> effects are in the Utopia and Robots sound schemes.  While 
> there, assign the "program error" sound from the Robots 
> scheme to program errors, and you have a crash which really 
> sounds like a crash.
> 
> These earcons don't warn you that a new window is about to 
> open, but tell you when your actions or the actions of an 
> advertisement have opened another window.  The annoying thing 
> is that, in your effort to close various windows, you will 
> end up closing too many and end your browsing session prematurely.
> 
> I would not put a warning inside a hyperlink.  Perhaps just after it.
> 
> At 09:19 PM 9/9/02 +0100, you wrote:
> >
> >> Does anyone know which user agents don't warn the user about a new 
> >> window/popup?
> >> 
> >
> >There is only one user agent these days, as far as most people are 
> >concerned, and it doesn't.
> >
> >In practice, no mass market browser is going to warn people 
> by default 
> >as those authors not forced to obey Section 508 would not 
> stand for its 
> >getting in the way of their designs.
> >
> >
> Braille is the solution to the digital divide.
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Received on Friday, 13 September 2002 06:13:59 GMT

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