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Re: Navigation bars with dynamic content

From: Jim Ley <jim@jibbering.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 14:32:39 -0000
Message-ID: <011001c1aa64$24446c40$ca969dc3@emedia.co.uk>
To: "WAI Mailing list" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
 "Harry Woodrow":
> If I cannot read where I am going how can I know to click there?

Can you provide a screenshot, if you aren't willing to provide me with
the information to recreate your scenario?

> Does the user have to write a css for every page?

Of course not, why would they?

>....the default one should be enough.

The default one in browsers is flawed where CSS-P is concerned, is that a
failing with CSS-P or those browsers?

> Whether you wish to make it accessible to users is up to you.  I merely
> pointed out as you had asked the conditions that in my opinion as a
user I
> felt inacessible.

I have only asked for you to explain how it is inaccessible - if I asked
you to complete the goal of say finding the useful addresses, which is in
the information office - could you do it?  what prevents you of achieving
that goal?

> In my
> opinion expecting the user to click on a blue and black mess of lines
is not
> a normal user choice.

The user chooses the colours.  If it's just the CSS-P problem with your
browser (which I've explained.)  Are you suggesting that CSS-P should not
be used as it's not accessible - In WCAG 1, we're told to use W3
technologies as they have built-in accessibility technologies, CSS-P is a
W3 technology.  Checkpoint 3.3 is
"Use style sheets to control layout and presentation. [Priority 2] "  Is
this checkpoint flawed as CSS-P makes pages inaccessible?

CSS is also advocated for layout in WCAG 2.0 - Is CSS for layout wrong,
or is your User Agent not configured optimally?  - I've provided the
simple steps you need to overcome the flaw in your UA (and it's not a
page specific fix, it's a fix for your UA.)

Jim.

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