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RE: Bobby inaccuracy?

From: Scarlett Julian (ED) <Julian.Scarlett@sheffield.gov.uk>
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:08:49 -0000
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To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Chaals

thank you.
Good point about the link situation.
Not sure about leaving out the word logo though. To my mind if the alt text
was just Sheffield City Council there would be no telling whether it was a
photo of all Councillors or the Council's crest/coat of arms, or a photo of
the town hall...you get the idea. I think the combination of alt text and
title that you suggest solves it nicely but for succinctness I think I'll
stick with including "logo" in the alt text. (Unless the lack of a title
attribute for the image will cause other problems)


Julian

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles McCathieNevile [mailto:charles@w3.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:55 PM
> To: Scarlett Julian (ED)
> Cc: 'David Poehlman'; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> Subject: RE: Bobby inaccuracy?
> 
> 
> Hi Julian,
> 
> in my humble opinion, alt="Sheffield City Council" does 
> everything necessary.
> 
> The fact that something is a link is indicated by almost 
> every browser, since
> it is a basic feature of the Web. (There are a couple of 
> development versions
> of obscure browsers that don't identify links, but it is 
> genuinely difficult
> to find them. I know of one, among about 50 browsers, and I would be
> surprised if anyone else managed to come up with it).
> 
> The fact that it is a logo is obvious to people who are 
> looking at it, but it
> really just gives a name (way to identify a concept or 
> object) in graphic
> form. In text form that is achieved by the name "Sheffield 
> City Council". You
> might want to use title="Sheffield City Council Logo" - 
> that's what this
> object in the page is.
> 
> You might even want to describe the logo via a longdesc. Then 
> i can use iCab
> to get at the description when I am using it in speech mode, 
> and afterwards
> might recognise the thing that was described, when I am 
> browsing in visual
> mode, or be able to describe it to someone looking in a book 
> of council
> logos. Or I might not bother - it might be clear enough anyway.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Chaals
> 
> On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Scarlett Julian (ED) wrote:
> 
>   Aaahhhh, now it's all crystal.
> 
>   Why does the word logo carry no meaning? Most people, 
> sighted or not, know
>   what a logo is. I actually thought that
>   alt="Sheffield City Council Logo -  hyperlink to Sheffield 
> City Council home
>   page" was good because it a) gave an indication of the 
> purpose of the image
>   itself and b) gave an indication of it's function as a link.
> 
>   Would, IYHO, alt="link to Sheffield City Council home page" 
> be better?
> 
>   Julian
> 
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