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RE: not jaws, just inaccessible:Fw: Inaccessible Web sites

From: John Foliot - bytown internet <foliot@bytowninternet.com>
Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 16:29:46 -0400
To: "W3c-Wai-Ig" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Cc: "Aaron Smith" <aaron@gwmicro.com>
Message-ID: <GKEFJJEKDDIMBHJOGLENGEDGCHAA.foliot@bytowninternet.com>
Well, for one, it doesn't even validate! Makes me wanna run out and join
with them for sure!

No DTD! (ARGHHHH!!!!!!!)

or how about:
Line 49, character 9:
        ^Error: end tag for element CENTER which is not open; try removing
the end tag or check for improper nesting of elements

Line 109, character 109:
... GCOLOR="#FFFFFF" WIDTH="100%">
                                 ^Error: element TABLE not allowed here;
possible cause is an inline element containing a block-level element

Line 110, character 61:
...  FACE="Arial" COLOR="#FFFFFF"><B>Step
                                 ^Error: element FONT not allowed here;
possible cause is an inline element containing a block-level element


Then there's the matter of autorefresshing the stupid banner call:
rd=NULL" height="60" width="468" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" vspace="0"
hspace="0" frameborder="0" align="middle" scrolling="no"><A
" border="0" width="468" height="60" alt="Click Here!"></A></IFRAME>"

I love to here that clicking sound that IE is creating every 10 seconds or


OK, in less than 60 seconds then, I've found contraventions on one page to
the following WAI Guidelines: 3.2 (Formal Grammers), 3.3 (Use Style Sheets),
3.4 (relative sizing), 3.5 (Header Elements - <CENTER><FONT face=Arial
color=#ffffff><B>Learn About IWA (Step #2)</B></FONT></CENTER>), 3.7 (use
blockquote properly), 7.4 (auto-refresh), 11.2 (although, since I don't know
which version of HTML they are authoring to, it's hard to tell what's

Yup, a shining example of what not to do.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org]On
> Behalf Of Aaron Smith
> Sent: May 24, 2002 4:06 PM
> To: Jerry Weichbrodt; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> Subject: Re: not jaws, just inaccessible:Fw: Inaccessible Web sites
> Can you explain the inaccessibility of this page? Loaded with
> Window-Eyes,
> it reads well.
> At 04:03 PM 5/24/2002 -0400, Jerry Weichbrodt wrote:
> >Here's one more page that's an accessibility nightmare with JAWS, and it
> >really surprises me.  http://www.iwanet.org/join/index.html
> >
> >Just let a blind person try and become a member of the International
> >Webmasters Association.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Jerry
> --
> Aaron Smith
> GW Micro
> Phone: 260/489-3671
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