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Re: Fwd from CHI-WEB: Amazon's version for the Visually Impaired

From: David Poehlman <poehlman1@home.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:13:16 -0500
Message-ID: <005601c184b1$dbce6920$c2f20141@mtgmry1.md.home.com>
To: <mburks952@worldnet.att.net>, "Jason Megginson" <jason@bartsite.com>, "'Scott Luebking'" <phoenixl@sonic.net>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
well, they used to have an accessible interface before they slicked it
up.  we can always approach them positively with comparisons of what is
possible with the main site that is not possible or apparently not
possible with the text only site.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael R. Burks" <mburks952@worldnet.att.net>
To: "Jason Megginson" <jason@bartsite.com>; "'Scott Luebking'"
<phoenixl@sonic.net>; <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:51 AM
Subject: RE: Fwd from CHI-WEB: Amazon's version for the Visually


even given all this, it is still great progress that they made the
Is the a positive way we can approach them and help improve it?


Mike Burks

-----Original Message-----
From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org]On
Behalf Of Jason Megginson
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:09 AM
To: 'Scott Luebking'; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: RE: Fwd from CHI-WEB: Amazon's version for the Visually

I found the site to be lacking attributes and tags necessary to be truly
"accessible".  <Label for=""> and id attributes, for "explicit labeling"
for instance, are missing.  I agree with David that if they would do it
right the first time, an alternate site would not be needed.

Jason Megginson
Access Technology Specialist
Bartimaeus Group

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From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Luebking
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 8:56 PM
To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: Fwd from CHI-WEB: Amazon's version for the Visually Impaired

Date:    Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:57:12 +0100
Subject: Amazon's version for the Visually Impaired

Hello all,

Do you know that amazon.com has developped a specific version of the
site for the Visually Impaired ?

See http://www.ecommercetimes.com/perl/story/15199.html for an article
and http://www.amazon.com/access to reach the site.

When we saw it we (the usability team) say :

- oupsss !!! (we provide an ASP software which is able to transform web
sites in an accessible and personalized way for all the visually
impaired (including blind and all people who need some visual comfort))

- great !!! they did a good job and all the pages are designed in the
good way : no more graphic (but a text only version yet exist), no more
marketing blabla, search engine in the top and so on...

We ask on a french list for the blind what they think about this site,
the way it is designed and is utility... For the moment, we are very
surprised by the answers ! Blind people do not find it so efficient :
they have the feeling of a "poor site" and they absolutely dislike that
there are two versions of the same site : one for "normal" people and
one for "visually impaired" ! They think designers have to put all their
efforts in designing one and only one site, and not to make "ghettos"
for the blind.

What do you think about that ?  It seems that the text only version is
preferred because much more informations are presents !
Someone has tested this version ?
Is it the better way to improve accessibility (visual accessibility) ?
And what about the URL ? Is it the good name ?

Of course, i will try to make a summary to the list of all the answers i
will get !

Thank you

PS : I am french, please excuse my english ! :)

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