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Re: FWD: CHI-WEB: Amazon's version for the Visually Impaired

From: David Poehlman <poehlman1@home.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:53:09 -0500
Message-ID: <001301c184b7$6f1037e0$c2f20141@mtgmry1.md.home.com>
To: "Scott Luebking" <phoenixl@sonic.net>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
but notice what it is bracketted in.  this has been described here and
elsewhere in the archives of this list as an acceptable solution but
with many provisos.  your exerpt does not fit the current senario.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Luebking" <phoenixl@sonic.net>
To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: FWD: CHI-WEB: Amazon's version for the Visually Impaired


Hi,

I think that the issue of a single web page might be changing in version
2.0 of the guidelines.  Recently, someone sent me this info about 2.0:

     http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wcag20-requirements

     RE: CLIENT SIDE AND SERVER SIDE SOLUTIONS
     S1 - serving content in different forms is an acceptable way to
comply
     with the guidelines as long as equivalents for all of the
information
     are provided in the different forms and it is all available through
the
     same URI (though it may be linked to it) (server side solutions are
     acceptable - as specified)

Scott

> I agree with David.
>
> Providing an alternative version of the site is not the preferred
solution. We
> need to aim to provide one accessible site for all users. Developing
an
> alternative site is considered a fall-back, last resort solution in
the W3C
> guidelines. Here is the relevant section of the guidelines regarding
> alternative versions:
>
> 11.4 If, after best efforts, you cannot create an accessible page,
provide a
> link to an alternative page that uses W3C technologies, is accessible,
has
> equivalent information (or functionality), and is updated as often as
the
> inaccessible (original) page. [Priority 1] (Checkpoint 11.4)
>
> Note. Content developers should only resort to alternative pages when
other
> solutions fail because alternative pages are generally updated less
often than
> "primary" pages. An out-of-date page may be as frustrating as one that
is
> inaccessible since, in both cases, the information presented on the
original
> page is unavailable. Automatically generating alternative pages may
lead to
> more frequent updates, but content developers must still be careful to
ensure
> that generated pages always make sense, and that users are able to
navigate a
> site by following links on primary pages, alternative pages, or both.
Before
> resorting to an alternative page, reconsider the design of the
original page;
> making it accessible is likely to improve it for all users. Refer this
URL:
> http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT-TECHS/#tech-alt-pages
>
> The "Frequently Asked Questions" (FAQ) page on W3C's "Web Content
> Accessibility Guidelines 1.0" also refers to this in FAQ 8:
>
> 8. Why don't the guidelines recommend using text-only pages?
> Text-only pages should not be necessary to ensure accessibility of Web
pages
> that follow the "Web Content Accessibility Guidelines," except in very
rare
> cases. In fact, text-only pages are frequently counterproductive to
> accessibility since they tend to be kept less up-to-date than "primary
pages,"
> or in some cases leave out information that is on primary pages.
>
> Many sites that have made a commitment to accessibility in the past
have used
> text-only pages as a solution; however, by following these guidelines
it
> should be unnecessary in almost all cases, or even inadvisable, to set
up and
> maintain a separate set of text-only pages.
>
> So in summary, while it is commendable that Amazon have at least
developed a
> Web site that is more accessible, this should have been a
consideration for
> the main site rather than as a second-best alternative.
>
> Denise
>
> -------------------------------------------
> Denise
>
> Dr Denise L Wood
> Lecturer: Professional Development (online teaching and learning)
> University of South Australia
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