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RE: Label Tags Question

From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 00:07:19 -0500 (EST)
To: Jim Thatcher <jim@jimthatcher.com>
cc: Lubow Scott <lubow_scott@bah.com>, w3c <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>, Trace List <sec508@trace.wisc.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0112012359380.5870-100000@tux.w3.org>
Err, it might also be regarded as a problem with IE. In what  way would
changing the specification of the label element fix the problem, and in what
way would changing IE fix it?

It would appear that it is perfectly possible to do what is required, and
that because of a quirk in the IE user interface it is not clear that it is
possible. I don't think that using IE as the reference implementation, and
suggesting that in case of a conflict between IE and the specification
everyone should follow what IE does is an appropriate approach to building
consensus, and although it might solve short-term problems it is likely to
lead to a decrease in interoperability and a skewing of the current stsate of
the Web which allows anyone to produce softare using open specifications.

An alternative technique would be to serve a special version to IE that
points out the bug and that one need not worry about what is presented since
the functionality is in fact available.


On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Jim Thatcher wrote:

  That is one of the problems with the LABEL tag. IE is tabbing to the
  checkbox, but it is placing the focus rectangle on the text you have
  indicated is the label. I recommend using the title attribute on the input
  element instead of the label; this problem is just one of the problems with
  the label tag. Current versions of JFW, Window-Eyes and HPR all support the
  title on an input element.

  Accessibility Consulting

  -----Original Message-----
  From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org]On
  Behalf Of Lubow Scott
  Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 11:46 AM
  To: w3c; Trace List
  Subject: Label Tags Question

  Sorry for the cross posting.  I have noticed that in I.E. 5.5, you can
  not tab to radio buttons and check boxes that have the LABEL tags around
  them.  Has anyone else noticed this and is there a way around it besides
  getting rid of the LABEL tags.
  Thanks in advance

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