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RE: mark up for complex data tables

From: Scarlett Julian (ED) <Julian.Scarlett@sheffield.gov.uk>
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:15:45 -0000
Message-ID: <F9BE3B1AB649D311A573009027852E4D0189647E@EDUC_MXS>
To: "'Access Systems'" <accessys@smart.net>
Cc: "'w3c-wai-ig@w3.org'" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
So how does it appear in PINE? Can you make any sense of it at all? What
would make it a useable table for PINE users?

Julian

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Access Systems [mailto:accessys@smart.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 3:43 AM
> To: David Poehlman
> Cc: Scarlett Julian (ED); w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> Subject: Re: mark up for complex data tables
> 
> 
> On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, David Poehlman wrote:
> 
> > jaws 4.01 does a great job with this it seems.
> 
> yeah but you should see the garbage that comes out in PINE!
> 
> Bob
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Scarlett Julian (ED)" <Julian.Scarlett@sheffield.gov.uk>
> > To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 4:29 AM
> > Subject: mark up for complex data tables
> > 
> > 
> > Hi all
> > 
> > I am working with a site owner to convert their existing 
> site to be more
> > accessible. At present they are serving up MS Office 
> documents (doc &
> > xls)
> > rather than html pages. To make things worse they are dumping Excel
> > tables
> > into Word docs as images. These tables are complex and I'm having
> > trouble
> > gettign the mark-up correct. I've read Kynn's article but still am
> > having
> > problems.The issue has become more urgent as I have an 
> appointment in
> > two
> > days with a screen reader user to see how her assistive 
> technology works
> > and
> > I would like to get the table done by then so I can hear 
> the difference
> > first hand. This is as far as I have got (I've put colours 
> and aligns in
> > for
> > ease of use - these will of course be handled by CSS in the 
> real thing):
> > 
> > <html>
> > <head>
> > <title>complex table - RAS work in progress</title>
> > <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 
> charset=iso-8859-1">
> > </head>
> > 
> > <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" >
> > <table width="90%" border="1" cellpadding="3" bordercolor="#000000"
> > summary="Table showing comparison of pupil's marks for 
> xxxxx school by
> > subject: comparison is by gender, with statistical 
> neighbours, across
> > the
> > LEA and nationally.">
> > <caption> 2001 Key Stage 3 results for xxxxxx school. </caption>
> >   <tr bgcolor="#CCCCCC">
> >     <th colspan="3">
> >       <div align="center">School name</div>
> >     </th>
> >     <th rowspan="2">
> >       <div align="center">Subject</div>
> >     </th>
> >     <th colspan="3">
> >       <div align="center">Band</div>
> >     </th>
> >     <th colspan="3">
> >       <div align="center">LEA</div>
> >     </th>
> >     <th colspan="3">
> >       <div align="center">National</div>
> >     </th>
> >   </tr>
> >   <tr bgcolor="#CCCCCC">
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">Boys</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">Girls</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">All</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">Boys</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">Girls</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">All</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">Boys</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">Girls</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">All</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">Boys</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">Girls</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">All</div>
> >     </td>
> >   </tr>
> >   <tr>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">data</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">data</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">data</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">subject 1</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">data</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">data</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">data</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">data</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">data</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">data</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">data</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">data</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">data</div>
> >     </td>
> >   </tr>
> >   <tr>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">data</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">data</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">data</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">subject 2</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">data</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">data</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">data</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">data</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">data</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">data</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">data</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">data</div>
> >     </td>
> >     <td>
> >       <div align="center">data</div>
> >     </td>
> >   </tr>
> > </table>
> > </body>
> > </html>
> > 
> > As usual there seem to be several different ways of doing 
> things and I'm
> > a
> > bit confused by getting scope to cover more than one 
> column. Also should
> > I
> > be using thead or header ids?
> > 
> > Any input would be greatly appreciated
> > 
> > tia
> > Julian
> > 
> > 
> > Julian Scarlett
> > Web Design & Document Management System Officer
> > PPU
> > Education Directorate
> > Sheffield City Council
> > 0114 2735721
> > mob 07904914976
> > julian.scarlett@sheffield.gov.uk
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