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Re: What instead of click here?

From: David Poehlman <poehlman1@home.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 18:09:19 -0400
Message-ID: <000401c1510f$0ba979e0$2cf60141@mtgmry1.md.home.com>
To: "Danny Ayers" <danny@isacat.net>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
the geeny is already out of the bottle.  It is hard to stuff it back in.
Like it or not, you cannot call back yesterday.  I do agree though that
at some point, the need for more orientative assistance will disappear.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Danny Ayers" <danny@isacat.net>
To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 5:54 PM
Subject: RE: What instead of click here?

The meaning of 'click here' is well known to any regular browser of the
irrespective of their tools, and new or old users with a mouse should
no trouble with the terminology. It may well be (briefly) unfortunate to
users of hypertext that don't have a device without an associated
feature, but the use of a generally familiar term will improve

But in any case, aren't there (at least) two pieces of information here
deal with : the linked text itself and the alt info? The linked text may
'click here' and the alt say 'Ask Michelle' or vice versa. Surely this
should be enough? I don't personally think the argument regarding the
unsuitability of 'click me' for link listing agents holds water as a
case - isn't it is up to the designers of the agents to make them more
accessible? (for example, including in the listing the title of the


Danny Ayers

Alternate email (2001) :

>-----Original Message-----
>From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org]On
>Behalf Of David Woolley
>Sent: 09 October 2001 20:11
>To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
>Subject: Re: What instead of click here?
>> type of control over language is misguided and dangerous,
>> because it is _not_ an accessibility error.  I have never heard
>> of, for example, a screenreader or keyboard user who was
>> completely stymied upon encountering "click here" as text.
>But this invalidates the very argument for the use of the words
>"click here";
>they are used in the belief that mouse users cannot cope with any
>of the action of clicking and therefore must be told the precise
>operation required.
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