- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 21:30:10 -0500 (EST)
- To: <jim@jimthatcher.com>
- cc: Laurie Harrison <laurie.harrison@utoronto.ca>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
I essentially agree with Jim's recommendation, but it is useful to have a name attribute that is at least meaningful, and a title attribute that takes advantage of the fact that you can have several words in it. (The key word should of course be the same). In addition you should use the noframes element, as per the HTML specification, to provide navigation links into your content for browsers which do not render each frame. I will take an action item to propose an update to the techniques for WCAG. Further comments below On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Jim Thatcher wrote: Laurie, (1) Here's WCAG: 12.1 Title each frame to facilitate frame identification and navigation. [Priority 1] For example, in HTML use the "title" attribute on FRAME elements. CMN Here's where WCAG points for techniques to do this: http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10-HTML-TECHS/#frame-names (Please note that every checkpoint in WCAG 1.0 has a link to techniques. In most cases there is further useful information both at the point and often just around it). Essentially the examle given here uses title on the frame element in the frameset. As Jim points out below, that probably isn't enough to work well everywhere. --Charles McCN JT continued (2) Section 508 used the WCAG wording without the example. Here is my analysis of how well assistive technology is listening to the these recommendations. (1) Lynx, which is not assistive technology, really, uses the name attributes on the frame elements for its list of frames. (2) HomePage Reader v2.5 used the title attribute on the frame element if it was present but reverted to the title element of the actual frame page if there was no title attribute. I know of no other AT that uses/used the title attribute. (3) Jaws uses the name attribute of the frame element for its list of frames, and announces both the name attribute and the title element as it reads the frame. (4) Window-Eyes only uses only the title element. I don't know if Window-Eyes provides a list of frames. (5) HPR v3.0 uses the title element of each frame page in its list of frames; it uses neither the name nor the title attribute. (This is a bug, in my opinion!) The only conclusion I can make is to recommend to web authors is provide both title and name attributes on the frame elements (make them the same) and quality titles on their frame pages. In other words do all three and your bases will be covered. Of course the name and title attributes describe the purpose of the frame, like "main content" or "local navigation."
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