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Re: Examples of checkpoint 6.4?

From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 11:14:36 -0500 (EST)
To: David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
cc: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0101141111230.26727-100000@tux.w3.org>
Yes, there is legitimate use of validation on form submission. I am not sure
what the use of activation triggering is on a link, but in the new DOM event
model it is there - we hope that it will be reflected in XHTML 2.0 as it is
in SVG and SMIL 2.0 (the first version of SMIL to have event triggering).

And the practise of linking to "javascript:popup(something)" is what I mean
by using script instead of a link. It is effectively a dead link in lots of
cases. And it tries to do something that can be done in normal HTML. (I don't
think it is often deliberate malice - the more usual reaction I get when I
explain this to people who use it is 'Oh, I didn't know that...'. Either
way, I agree that it is bad - probably number two on my top ten mistakes of
Web Design)

cheers

Charles McCN

On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, David Woolley wrote:

  > There are defined semantics for the A element (and there are for the submit

  That's at the core of many accessibility problems.  People don't want
  to work within the defined semantics because they actually want to
  emulate another tool or put their corporate brand on things.

  > button as well). Using a javascript instead of this is a bad move. In the new

  There is a legitimate use of onsubmit for client side pre-validation.

  Whilst popups may not be a good idea, I would rather have sites that
  popup for A elements with an onclick or onactivate, than the current
  situation of using javascript:popup().  The number of dead links on
  sites is getting annoyingly high at the moment.


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