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RE: Tagging question...

From: Bruce Bailey <bbailey@clark.net>
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 13:27:52 -0400
To: "WAI Interest Group \(E-mail\)" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Cc: "Charles McCathieNevile" <charles@w3.org>, "Karl Ove Hufthammer" <huftis@bigfoot.com>
Message-ID: <000001bfcfdc$8b7ad160$53fe330a@msde>
We've had this discussion on the list more than a few times!

The fundamentalists, of course, have the book on their side.  The more
pragmatic among us worry that such a strict literal interpretation, and the
religious fervour demonstrated by those proponents, turns off the
unconverted from the larger cause.

In truth, it is hard to argue that modest accommodation of deprecated
browsers (backwards compatibility) is a bad thing, except that such
compromises can be perceived to help forestall the day of judgment when all
the web, and the tools used therein, will be standards compliant.  Some of
the true believers will admit that this second coming is a long way off, but
even they still author their pages with the expectation that this new age
will happen in their lifetimes.

For my own part, I would much rather see 1000 pages that were WCAG Level-A
compliant than one HTML 4.01 strict (or even XHTML 1.0)!

Something else that's been posted more than once here:  Alan's directions
for getting a decorative rule using HR and CSS.  Presumably this trick works
well for bullets too.
http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/www/hrstyle.html


> -----Original Message-----
> From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org]On
> Behalf Of Charles McCathieNevile
> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 12:34 PM
> To: Karl Ove Hufthammer
> Cc: WAI Interest Group (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: Tagging question...
>
>
> I agree with Karl.
>
> Where markup exists, use it. That's an important part of writing
> in a markup
> language. Using a punctuation convention is the same as creating
> a new markup
> language, but one that is less-well understood...
>
> cheers
>
> Charles McCN
>
> On Tue, 6 Jun 2000, Karl Ove Hufthammer wrote:
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "Bruce Bailey" <bbailey@clark.net>
>   To: "Melinda Morris-Black" <melinda@ink.org>
>   Cc: "WAI Interest Group (E-mail)" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
>   Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 4:44 AM
>   Subject: Re: Tagging question...
>
>   | Alan Flavell is brilliant and occasional contributes to this list.
>   The article in
>   | question, however, is NOT strongly oriented towards consideration of
>   the blind.  For
>   | bullets and rules, use * and --- which have the advantage of not
>   usually being spoken
>   | by a screen reader, unless the user asks for it.
>
>   I disagree. If you use bullets, you should use the 'li' element (in 'ul'
>   of course). If you want a rule, you should use the 'hr' element,
>   specifically designed for this.
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