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RE: indenting

From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 13:22:14 -0500 (EST)
To: "Neff, Robert" <Robert.Neff@usmint.treas.gov>
cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org, "'Joan Piroch'" <d4951@sccoast.net>, Jamie Fox <jfox@fenix2.dol-esa.gov>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.20.9912071318410.31909-100000@tux.w3.org>
The way I understood the question it was "how do I do this, and what happens
when people use an older browser". My answer is "Use CSS is how you do it. If
people use a browser that is older than Explorer 3 they will lose the
effect. But if people use a browser that is older than explorer 3 they are
clearly not motivated by the latest and greatest presentation, so I wouldn't
be too concerned."

It's a little like assuming that people are going to be using Black and White
TV (much more common outside the USA), except that where there is a clear
accessibility isue with the use of colour there is much less issue with
indenting text. (If there is some markup-expressible reason to indent the
text, for example because it is a quote, then the natural way to do it is by
using blockquote or whatever is relevant, but I am assuming it isn't the
case.)

Charles McCN

On Tue, 7 Dec 1999, Neff, Robert wrote:

  Its not about whether or not your browser supports CSS, rather its about
  what the corporate design standards are.  What jamie is asking is, "How do
  you do this if you do not use CSS"
  
  		-----Original Message-----
  		From:	Charles McCathieNevile [mailto:charles@w3.org]
  		Sent:	Tuesday, December 07, 1999 1:06 PM
  		To:	Neff, Robert
  		Cc:	w3c-wai-ig@w3.org; 'Joan Piroch'; Jamie Fox
  		Subject:	RE: indenting
  
  		Assume that people who have browsers which do not support
  CSS are probably
  		not very interested in presentation controlled to the level
  provided by CSS.
  
  		Charles McCN
  
  		On Tue, 7 Dec 1999, Neff, Robert wrote:
  
  		  you cannot rely on CSS!  what are other options!
  		  
  		  /rob
  		  
  		  		-----Original Message-----
  		  		From:	Joan Piroch
  [mailto:d4951@sccoast.net]
  		  		Sent:	Tuesday, December 07, 1999 12:21 PM
  		  		To:	Jamie Fox
  		  		Cc:	w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
  		  		Subject:	Re: indenting
  		  
  		  		At 03:13 PM 12/6/99 -0500, Jamie Fox wrote:
  		  		>I want to indent sections of a document
  without using
  		  spaces or some other 
  		  		>cheat.  I want to do something similar to
  what <blockquote>
  		  does.  Will 
  		  		><DIR> do it and how will it hold up on
  older browsers?
  		  Thanks for your 
  		  		>help.
  		  		>
  		  		>-Jamie Fox
  		  
  		  
  		  		>>CSS is what you want to use here.
  Something such as the
  		  following:
  		  
  		  
  		  		div.section1 {
  		  		             margin-left:20px
  		  		             }
  		  
  		  		in the head section or in a linked style
  sheet.
  		  
  		  
  		  		Then: <div
  		  		      class="section1">
  		  
  		  		in the code.
  		  
  		  		This will "degrade gracefully" in older
  browsers, although
  		  it will NOT be
  		  		indented.
  		  
  		  
  		  		HTH
  		  
  		  		Paul
  		  
  		  		
  		  
  
  		--Charles McCathieNevile    mailto:charles@w3.org  phone:
  +61 409 134 136
  		W3C Web Accessibility Initiative
  http://www.w3.org/WAI
  		21 Mitchell Street, Footscray, VIC 3011,  Australia (I've
  moved!)
  

--Charles McCathieNevile    mailto:charles@w3.org  phone: +61 409 134 136
W3C Web Accessibility Initiative                    http://www.w3.org/WAI
21 Mitchell Street, Footscray, VIC 3011,  Australia (I've moved!)
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