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Re: Pop-ups and new windows

From: David Poehlman <poehlman@clark.net>
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:45:10 -0400 (EDT)
To: Paul Adelson <paul.adelson@citicorp.com>
cc: "'Web Accessibility Initiative'" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980720183942.9578A-100000@shell.clark.net>
I'm not even sure when those things happen.  I just know that when there
are no obvious textual ways to deal with what is on the screen, things go
hay wire.  for instanc, the wattermark of geocities opened in a ew window
or at least I figured that is what happened because closing that window,
gave me the site I was seeking.
the window only said "here's a message from one of our sponsors.  this is
with jfw 3.2 and netscape 4.05.
As I indicated I don't now what's going on behind the scenes.  flashing
text for instances causes problems for navigation because the navigation
aids want to go to them, anything that pops up over the page will be
useless and render the page useless because it will be jumbled.  anything
that has no directional text ellements in it and is off to the side will
be missed entirely.
this is a user looking at the display or trying to who doesn't know what
the cause of the problems is.
I guess if we had some specific examples saying go to this url for this
behaviour etc, I could use my combination and throw in ie for good measure
because I use it too and it is popular and good at getting at sites, and
report back.  I'd hope though that someone will tell us more specifically
how these things naming names affect access.


On Mon, 20 Jul 1998, Paul Adelson wrote:

> Thanks, David.
> 
> Any chance I could get more specific info on the problems each condition
> creates?
> * Pop-up Confirmation boxes
> * Spawning new browser windows
> * Spawning specifically sized  browser windows (e.g. 640 x 480)
> * Spawning browser windows without standard toolbars etc.
> 
> Perhaps the answers seem obvious to people with more experience, but I'm still
> a beginner to all this and I'd like to understand the problems as much as
> possible.
> 
>  -- Paul
> 
> David Poehlman wrote:
> 
> > they're all a pain in the neck.  I have to close the darn window because
> > it is useless to me.
> >
> > On Mon, 20 Jul 1998, Paul Adelson wrote:
> >
> > > Microsoft's 16 July 1998 SBN Wire (Site Builder Network) includes hints
> > > on creating  confirmation boxes (ok/cancel pop-ups).
> > >
> > > Do pop-up boxes create accessibility problems, and if so are there
> > > recommended alternatives?
> > >
> > > Along the same lines, what about the growing number of links that open a
> > > new browser window when you click on them, or the ads that pop up in new
> > > windows with no warning?
> > >
> > > Many of the ads pop up at a specific size, and have all of the standard
> > > browser navigation buttons hidden (in netscape at least). Does this
> > > present any special accessibility problems? How important are the
> > > browser's standard navigational controls to accessibility?
> > >
> > >  -- Paul
> > >
> >
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