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RE: ALT-attribute usage (fwd)

From: Charles (Chuck) Oppermann <chuckop@MICROSOFT.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 18:39:02 -0800
Message-ID: <8158E266008CCF119B5900805FD4816A01F7363F@red-34-msg.dns.microsoft.com>
To: "'po@trace.wisc.edu'" <po@trace.wisc.edu>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
I disagree with this - so if I have a picture of a furry dog as my list
item graphic, I as an HTML author need to always use "Item" as the ALT
attribute?  Isn't this a misuse of the ALT attribute?  

Via the HTML object model and Active Accessibility, screen readers will
know they are talking to a list item already.  This guideline only helps
down level browsers and certain screen readers with the *visual*
presentation of the list item.

I fear that this kind of guideline only makes adoption less likely by
being confusing.

Charles Oppermann
Windows NT User Interface Group, Microsoft Corporation
mailto:chuckop@microsoft.com http://microsoft.com/enable/
"A computer on every desk and in every home, usable by everyone!"

	-----Original Message-----
	From:	Gregg Vanderheiden [SMTP:po@trace.wisc.edu]
	Sent:	Monday, November 03, 1997 1:11 PM
	To:	w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
	Subject:	RE: ALT-attribute usage (fwd)

	Perfect.  Just the feedback we needed.

	Unless I hear otherwise the guidelines will recommend

	1)  that any graphics used as bullets have the alt text  "Item"
With a 
	character to cause a pause after the word.

	The two candidates are Comma and Semicolon.   Possibly with a
space 
	afterward to keep the word from running into the next word.

	Couple of questions to close this one off

	 - Is there a consensus that there should be "item"?  (I thought
I got one 
	but am not sure)
	- Is comma the proper character for a pause.  It is longer but
longer may 
	not be better.  And Semicolon looks better visually and more
natural so it 
	might get included more.     Should we use Semicolon or comma?
	- Is the space needed?  Can someone confirm?  Is it needed for
comma?   Is 
	it needed for Semicolon?


	Thanks much.

	Gregg
	-- ------------------------------
	Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
	Guidelines Scribe and Compiler
Received on Monday, 3 November 1997 21:39:20 GMT

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