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Re: Search by Reading Level

From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 01:14:21 +0200
To: Jim Allan <jimallan@tsbvi.edu>
Cc: Cherie Ekholm <cheriee@exchange.microsoft.com>, Loretta Guarino Reid <lorettaguarino@google.com>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Message-id: <01591D40-2D3C-454D-A9CA-4CAF42F29462@trace.wisc.edu>
and what results do you get for the three sentences.


Gregg
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Gregg Vanderheiden Ph.D.
Director Trace R&D Center
Professor Industrial & Systems Engineering
and Biomedical Engineering
University of Wisconsin-Madison

Co-Director, Raising the Floor - International
and the Global Public Inclusive Infrastructure Project
http://Raisingthefloor.org   ---   http://GPII.net








On Mar 30, 2012, at 1:11 AM, Jim Allan wrote:

> how about http://www.read-able.com
> 
> The Readability Test Tool takes the text on your web page and gives a
> score for the most used readability indicators.
> 
> Flesch Kincaid Reading Ease
> Flesch Kincaid Grade Level
> Gunning Fog Score
> Coleman Liau Index
> Automated Readability Index (ARI)
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> or
> http://www.readabilityformulas.com/free-readability-formula-tests.php
> (group rating)
> it rates on 7 different scales with additional tools for checking
> grade levels using the Fry Graph, Raygor Estimate Graph, Spache
> Formula, and New Dale-Chall Formula,
> http://www.readabilityformulas.com/search/pages/Free_Readability_Calculators/
>  (individual tools)
> 
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> Jim Allan (channeling John Slatin - who would have better and more
> accurate information on readability)
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> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Cherie Ekholm
> <cheriee@exchange.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> And it’s widely used in US government and education.
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>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Flesch
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>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flesch%E2%80%93Kincaid_readability_test
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>> Chérie Ekholm
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>> Senior Standards Professional
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>> Microsoft Office Standards & Interoperability
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>> Phone: 425-706-1425
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>> Fax: 425-936-7329
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>> Redmond, WA
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>> From: Gregg Vanderheiden [mailto:gv@trace.wisc.edu]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 3:38 PM
>> To: Cherie Ekholm
>> Cc: Loretta Guarino Reid; WCAG
>> 
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>> Subject: Re: Search by Reading Level
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>> This measure is arbitrary and yields dubious results for meaningful sentence
>> with proper nouns in them.
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>> for example
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>> This sentence is uninterpretable (passes little useful information) but is
>> easy reading.
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>> He went to it and to see her.
>> Flesch reading ease 100.0
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>> while this one is
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>> Jimmy went to the hospital to see Madeline.
>> Flesch reading ease  61.2
>> Reading level 6.7
>> Has a higher reading level - yet is the easiest form.
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>> this one has lower reading grade level but is hard to read and parse.
>> 
>> Your brother went to the place where they take sick kids to see the girl you
>> saw last night.
>> Flesch reading ease 100.0
>> Reading level 3.6
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>> Gregg
>> 
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>> Gregg Vanderheiden Ph.D.
>> Director Trace R&D Center
>> Professor Industrial & Systems Engineering
>> and Biomedical Engineering
>> University of Wisconsin-Madison
>> 
>> 
>> Co-Director, Raising the Floor - International
>> and the Global Public Inclusive Infrastructure Project
>> http://Raisingthefloor.org   ---   http://GPII.net
>> 
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>> On Mar 30, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Cherie Ekholm wrote:
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>> If you are looking at reading level as determined by something like the
>> Flesch-Kincaid grade level or Flesch reading ease (or similar), the formulae
>> are available online. These are aggregate scores that take into account
>> sentence length and syllables per word. One reference is the MS topic for
>> Word at:
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>> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/help/test-your-document-s-readability-HP010354286.aspx?CTT=1
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>> Chérie Ekholm
>> 
>> Senior Standards Professional
>> 
>> Microsoft Office Standards & Interoperability
>> 
>> Phone: 425-706-1425
>> 
>> Fax: 425-936-7329
>> 
>> Redmond, WA
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>> From: Gregg Vanderheiden [mailto:gv@trace.wisc.edu]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 2:49 PM
>> To: Loretta Guarino Reid
>> Cc: WCAG
>> Subject: Re: Search by Reading Level
>> 
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>> would be nice to know how the reading levels are determined.
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>> anyone know?
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>> Gregg
>> 
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>> Gregg Vanderheiden Ph.D.
>> Director Trace R&D Center
>> Professor Industrial & Systems Engineering
>> and Biomedical Engineering
>> University of Wisconsin-Madison
>> 
>> 
>> Co-Director, Raising the Floor - International
>> and the Global Public Inclusive Infrastructure Project
>> http://Raisingthefloor.org   ---   http://GPII.net
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>> On Mar 29, 2012, at 8:27 PM, Loretta Guarino Reid wrote:
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>> We are often asked how to determine the reading level of text for meeting SC
>> 3.1.5. The features described in this blog post will be helpful for people
>> looking for content at a suitable reading level. I wonder if there is a way
>> they can help authors, too?
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>> http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/03/learning-independence-with-google.html
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