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RE: Delivery Units And Frames

From: Michael Cooper <michaelc@watchfire.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 10:57:31 -0500
Message-ID: <A0666B3C59F1634290FDC88674D87C3205831AF8@1WFEMAIL.ottawa.watchfire.com>
To: <jim@jimthatcher.com>, <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Hi Jim - your understanding parallels mine, and I have argued for this position in the group. I believe the group has agreed on that and the How to Meet document contains editorial oversight rather than an intention to convey a different impression, though I am not fully sure. The semantic overload of the word "title", referring both to the "title" attribute and the <title> element (as well as to the concept of a title), causes discussion on this topic to be unclear and decisions taken on the discussion to be imperfectly executed.
 
In my opinion, use of the "title" attribute is the preferred HTML technique to meet 2.4.5 for frames, providing a kind of "link text" that identfies the content that would be loaded in the frame. The <title> element is the HTML technique for 2.4.4 and applies to all documents, whether they are loaded in a frame or not. I think a number of the techniques in the respective How to Meet documents need to be shuffled around to reflect this.
 
Michael

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From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Jim Thatcher
Sent: December 5, 2005 9:48 AM
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Subject: Delivery Units And Frames



SC 2.4.4 says that delivery units should have titles. Good. 

 

For HTML and frames, I believe that the delivery units are the Frame Pages and the Frameset Page (or pages). 

 

But "How to Meet SC 2.4.4" says providing title attributes on the <frame> element is an HTML technique for meeting 2.4.4. 

 

In what sense is the title attribute on a <frame> element a title for a delivery unit? What delivery unit?

 

Jim

 

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