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[minutes] 22 September 2005

From: Wendy Chisholm <wendy@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:47:21 -0400
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       [1] http://www.w3.org/

                             WCAG WG weekly telecon

22 Sep 2005


       [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2005JulSep/0849.html

    See also: [3]IRC log

       [3] http://www.w3.org/2005/09/22-wai-wcag-irc


           Sofia_Celic, Makoto_Ueki, Becky_Gibson, Roberto_Scano,
           Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Wendy Chisholm, Matt_May, Tim_Boland,
           Bengt_Farre, Michael_Cooper, Alex_Li, Luca Mascaro, Gregg
           Vanderheiden, Ben Caldwell, Gian Sampson-Wild, Katie_Haritos-Shea,
           Andi_Snow_Weaver, Roberto_Ellero, Neil_Soiffer

           John_Slatin, Takayuki_Watanabe, Rob_Haverty, Roberto_Castaldo,
           Christophe Strobbe, David MacDonald




      * [4]Topics
          1. [5]Example guide document for 1.1 L1 SC1
          2. [6]team a update
          3. [7]team b update
          4. [8]team c update
          5. [9]Heartbeat publication requirements
      * [10]Summary of Action Items


Example guide document for 1.1 L1 SC1

    discussion about "common failures" - ideas for what could go in there,
    concern about this section exploding with test cases (although could be
    helpful), concern about use of "and" between sufficient techniques and
    failure points.

    resolution: use model of guideline 1.1 l1 sc1 for guides. "common failures"
    will evolve.


    discussion of timing and moving forward (ala Michael's summary at -


team a update

    no new items for discussion this week. trying to assemble all of the key
    parts for next week.

    all groups should have this goal - bring essential pieces for each SC for
    discussion next week.

team b update

    latest defn proposal:

      [13] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2005JulSep/0854.html

    proposal is to remove "acronym" from SC since acronyms are abbreviations.

    abbreviation Shortened form of a word, phrase or name, i.e. a general
    category that includes abbreviations, initialisms and acronyms.

    resolution: abbreviation Shortened form of a word, phrase or name, i.e. a
    general category that includes abbreviations, initialisms and acronyms.

    resolution: initialism - the shortened form of a name or phrase made from
    the initial letters of words or syllables contained in that name or phrase.
    Not defined in all languages. SNCF is a French initialism that contains the
    initial letters of the Societe National des Chemins de Fer, the French
    national railroad. ESP is an initialism for extrasensory perception.
    (removed "unpronounceable" so as not to restrict it too much)

    resolution: acronym - An abbreviation made from the initial letters of a
    name or phrase that contains several words. Many acronyms can be pronounced
    as words. Defined differently in different languages. For example, NOAA is
    an abbreviation made from the initial letters of the National Oceanic and
    Atmospheric Administration in the United States.

    resolution: adopt 3.1 L3 SC3 as A mechanism for finding the expanded 
form of
    abbreviations is available. (removed word "acronym" since in defn of

team c update

    working on defn of " input error" but not yet ready for survey.



    drafts for guides for 3 of 4 SC. will be looking at on Monday. will be
    focusing in on priorities for guide doc.

    should we done w/priority items for 2.5 soon. maybe not by next 
meeting, but

    minutes from last week, closed all issues but 2:


      [15] http://www.w3.org/2005/09/15-wai-wcag-minutes.html

    last open issue of 2.5 list is

      [16] http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1017

    proposal to close issue with, "although it is a good goal, every number we
    suggested was either unnecessarily restrictive or counterproductive.
    therefore, were unable to figure out how to make this work."

    proposal to include this as advisory for 2.5

    resolution: close issue 1017 with above text (or something along those

Heartbeat publication requirements

    requirement that every 3 months rec-track documents must publish.

    can request to skip, if publish a status report. will make request, draft
    report, and send report past group for approval for publication.

    plan is to have next draft 3 weeks after f2f (week of 7 November)

Summary of Action Items

    [End of minutes]


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