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Re: Automatic submission of forms and screen changes

From: Loretta Guarino Reid <lguarino@adobe.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 11:45:40 -0700
Message-Id: <200306261845.LAA18983@patagonia>
To: Wendy A Chisholm <wendy@w3.org>
cc: Kerstin Goldsmith <kerstin.goldsmith@oracle.com>, w3c-wai-gl <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>

Wendy,
  I thought that the issue was with forms that would automatically submit 
themselves when the last field was filled in. This is different from making 
sure things can be activated via the keyboard.  And I'm not sure any of the 
current checkpoints covers this situation.

	Loretta

> 
> Hello Kerstin,
> 
> I think that checkpoint 2.1 (All functionality is operable at a minimum 
> through a keyboard or a keyboard interface) [1] and its required success 
> criterion address part of this issue - "Ensure that menus and other 
> navigation controls can be operated." I'm not sure about the other piece, 
> "without causing form submission or screen changes."  I think it is implied 
> that if you design something to work with a keyboard or keyboard interface 
> it ought to work *well* but we might want to be more explicit. Perhaps a 
> second success criterion that says, "operating the functionality through a 
> keyboard or keyboard interface works in a way that is logical for the 
> keyboard user."  I'm not sure how to make this less subjective ("is logical 
> for the keyboard user" is not testable), but here's a starting point if we 
> think we want to go in this direction.
> 
> Are these [2] the NFB guidelines you are referring to?
> 
> Thoughts?
> --wendy
> 
> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#keyboard-operation
> [2] http://www.nfb.org/tech/webacc.htm
> 
> At 12:31 AM 6/26/2003, Kerstin Goldsmith wrote:
> 
> >Hi,
> >
> >Question: the NFB put together a list of guidelines for the web, and one 
> >of them seems quite pertinent;  I know that we have run into it in several 
> >ways, and it's definitely disorienting for a vision-impaired user.  I am 
> >wondering where similar language is found in the current WCAG 2.0 draft, 
> >if at all.  If it's not there, does anyone have any thoughts on the 
> >requirement?
> >
> >"Ensure that menus and other navigation controls can be operated without 
> >causing form submission or screen changes."  For us, there has to at least 
> >be some warning to the user, or there has to be some kind of user action 
> >required before form submission or screen change.
> >
> >I tried to find this under Guideline 2 somewhere, but maybe it's too late 
> >at night for that?  <smile>
> >
> >Thanks for any guidance/thoughts,
> >
> >-kerstin
> 
> -- 
> wendy a chisholm
> world wide web consortium
> web accessibility initiative
> http://www.w3.org/WAI/
> /-- 
> 
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