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Re: accesskey shortcuts.

From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 02:02:21 -0500 (EST)
To: <gian@stanleymilford.com.au>
cc: <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0112080159040.20981-100000@tux.w3.org>
This shouldn't go in the guidelines as a permamnent requirement. But until
more browsers are smarter about adapting the accesskeys to their own
capabilities it is a useful technique - they are certainly the most widely
available keys.

For browsers that do a reasonable job of accesskeys there are plenty more
though - and it is possible to implement accesskeys in a way that makes
tsomething available for the user to find out what they are, and be able to
use any control that has an accesskey assigned without having to restrict
them this far - there is a lot of value in having mnemonic accesskeys, and as
someone who uses them a lot (in iCab, where it is just the key with no alt or
ctrl or whatever) I appreciate the functionality.



On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 gian@stanleymilford.com.au wrote:

  When using accesskeys I have always stuck to the numbers zero through to
  nine - the reason being that the other ascii keys are used with the Alt
  key (or Apple key on Macs) in various instances.  Perhaps we should
  include this in the guidelines?


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Mathew.Mirabella [mailto:Mathew.Mirabella@team.telstra.com]
  Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 3:43 PM
  To: w3c-wai-gl
  Subject: form controls: acesskey shortcuts.


  A further query and item for discussion.

  Excluding the provision of a separate page with a list of accesskeys,
  how do
  you highlight the fact that keyboard accesskey shortcuts are available
  without making dramatic changes to a page.

  An example:

        <label for="username">Username:</label> <input name="username"
  id="username" type="text" value="" size="30" tabindex="1" accesskey="u">

  I have seen one way to indicate to users that there is a keyboard
  combination.  Place some text on the page explaining the alt-combination
  shortcuts, and also underline the respective character in the text of
  label.  What are your thoughts on the following example of underlining

        ...<span style="text-decoration: underline;>U</span>sername...

  This is, of course, visual, and not descriptive to a screen reader user.
  there are problems with doing this without non-visual equivalents.  It
  also be a problem with links, as link text is supposed to be underlined.
  Maybe you could use a bolded character instead of an underlined

  What do you all think?



  Mat Mirabella
  Telstra Research
  03 9253 6712

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