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Re: interesting one for text equivalence

From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 08:20:07 -0500 (EST)
To: Lisa Seeman <seeman@netvision.net.il>
cc: William Loughborough <love26@gorge.net>, WAI <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0101030816380.9054-100000@tux.w3.org>
Well, it is true that "usability" is important. In particular, efficiency is
a major problem in accessibility - the so called "reading through a soda
straw" problem, or having to navigate sequentially through a hundred links
becuase that is the only keyboard-based access to a link deomnstrate this.

I think it would be nice to have access to the information about how lovely
your site is, but I would hate to have to read about it every time I went
there, before I got to find out what it was you were actualy putting on the
site... (In reality I am unlikely to bother, but there is no harm in
something being possible - "make the usual things easy, and the unusual
possible" is a good approach I find).

I believe that is what Jakob Nielsen and other usability experts spend a lot
of time talking about.

Cheers

Charles McCN

On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Lisa Seeman wrote:

  I (in part) disagree.

  Part of accessibility is usability and part of usability is clear concise
  scalable text. (William, see that Nielson alert box, that you forwarded)

  Adding text or even links to text that describe non semantic content, will
  detract from this.

  Of course, there are exception, but when you just  like changing the color
  scheme every few month...

  L

  -----Original Message-----
  From: William Loughborough <love26@gorge.net>
  To: Kynn Bartlett <kynn-edapta@idyllmtn.com>; Lisa Seeman
  <seeman@netvision.net.il>; WAI <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
  Date: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 3:50 PM
  Subject: Re: interesting one for text equivalence


  >At 12:34 AM 1/2/01 -0800, Kynn Bartlett wrote:
  >>Should I have some sort of description on my page (kynn.com) of the
  >>graphical/visual elements of the page, for the benefit of those who cannot
  >>see the CSS?
  >
  >Absolutely - it would be particularly "friendly" if this were not trumpeted
  >as in "look how cool I am to change my site's appearance with the season"
  >but was analogous to the note at the back of printed books which explain
  >the fonts used (although not normally the reasons for the choices).
  >
  >People with(out) retinae may(n't) want to know these things or not have
  >them forced upon us.
  >
  >I think this is the crux of the entire discussion about the "classes/CSS"
  >issue.
  >
  >--
  >Love.
  >                 ACCESSIBILITY IS RIGHT - NOT PRIVILEGE
  >
  >


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