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RE: natural language checkpoint for WCAG2 GL1

From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 08:30:37 -0400 (EDT)
To: "gregory j. rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net>
cc: <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0105180828440.30139-100000@tux.w3.org>
How about

"Using appropriate markup, identify the natural language of content".

It is not clear, in a world of pluggable and customised web pages, what is
"the document" anyway. So the technique relevant is to identify the main
language of a piece of content, and if there are parts of it in another
language or languages to identify those individually.

cheers

Charles McCN

On Thu, 17 May 2001, gregory j. rosmaita wrote:

  aloha, gregg!

  while i'm not sure that, in this instance, a one-sentence distillation of my
  2 sentence proposal would be any clearer, and since--as you all too well
  know--terseness isn't exactly my strong suit, i may not be the right person
  to ask to whittle my proposal down, but here goes anyway...

  submitted for your (collective approval) are 2 re-iterations of my original
  proposal, which i have also included here, marked as PROPOSED1:

  <PROPOSED1>
  Define the natural language of each document. Indicate changes in the
  natural language declared for a document using appropriate markup.
  </PROPOSED1>

  <PROPOSED2>
  Using appropriate markup, define the natural language of each
  document, indicating any changes.
  </PROPOSED2>

  <PROPOSED3>
  Define the natural language of each document, and indicate any
  changes within the document, using appropriate markup.
  </PROPOSED3>

  personally, if i had to choose, i'd choose PROPOSED2 -- the more i re-listen
  to it, the more it allays my initial reluctance about combination of the 2
  requirements into a single statment, especially as i don't think you have to
  be a loose constructionist to read PROPOSED2 as extending to the indication
  of changes in natural language as a result of user activity, such as, say,
  following a link whose target resource has been referentially marked, using
  an 'hreflang'-type mechanism, as being encoded in a different natural
  language...

  gregory.
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