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RE: linearized tables

From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 03:18:38 -0400 (EDT)
To: "Leonard R. Kasday" <kasday@acm.org>
cc: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.20.0004180318320.11807-100000@tux.w3.org>
Yep.

Charles

On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Leonard R. Kasday wrote:

  Hi Charles,
  
  I don't know if we're saying the same thing.  I'm saying that nested 
  headers do not require
  
  headers=idrefs
  
  in any <TH> or <TD>
  
  nor do you need axis or scope for that matter,
  
  when the algorithm 
  http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/tables.html#h-11.4.3  applies.
  
  Is that what you're also saying?
  
  Len
  
  
  At 06:08 PM 4/17/00 -0400, Charles McCathieNevile wrote:
  >Len,
  >
  >As you pointed out, HTML provides a simple way of marking up a set of headers
  >along the top and another along one side of a table. Using this would meet
  >the requirements of the checkpoint
  >
  >Cheers
  >
  >Charles McCN
  >
  >On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Leonard R. Kasday wrote:
  >
  >   More on linearized tables...
  >[first issue snipped]
  >   Another issue is that the proposed regulations require that
  >
  >   "Markup shall be used to associate data cells and header cells for data
  >   tables that have two or more logical levels of row or column headers."
  >
  >   This is indeed a Priority 1 in the guidelines (checkpoint 5.2).  However,
  >   for the simple, common case of nested headings along the top and left side
  >   of a table, no additional markup is needed since HTML 4 provides an
  >   algorithm http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/tables.html#h-11.4.3 which
  >   identifies the proper headers. So I'd like to allow an exception for this
  >   case, because
  >   - in general, we're best off asking only for what is really needed
  >   - Someone else is bound to notice the same thing and point out that we're
  >   asking for something that's not needed, thereby opening the guidelines to
  >   attack--e.g. court.
  >
  >
  >   Len
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