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Re: BLINK repair mechanisms (calling all CSS gurus!)

From: Chris Ridpath <chris.ridpath@utoronto.ca>
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 16:39:16 -0400
Message-ID: <013201bf1c04$5894d8e0$b040968e@ic.utoronto.ca>
To: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <unagi69@concentric.net>
Cc: "Evaluation & Repair Interest Group" <w3c-wai-er-ig@w3.org>
Thanks for your helpful comments.
I've fixed it up with an appropriate LONGDESC. Please take a look and let me
know your comments.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gregory J. Rosmaita <unagi69@concentric.net>
To: Chris Ridpath <chris.ridpath@utoronto.ca>
Cc: Evaluation & Repair Interest Group <w3c-wai-er-ig@w3.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: BLINK repair mechanisms (calling all CSS gurus!)

> aloha, chris!
> one small comment upon
>         http://aprompt.snow.utoronto.ca/tags/blink1.html
> whilst the screen-shot is commendably ALT-texted and LONGDESCed, would it
> possible to employ the following strategy to expose the contents of a
> real unquote LONGDESC, rather than simply repeat the ALT argument as the
> LONGDESC argument as you do on the above-referenced page?
> 1. enclose the graphic in an <A HREF ...> </A> that points to the same URI
> used for the LONGDESC -- for example, blink1_screenshot_description.html
> 2. describe the screenshot in the body of the page
> blink1_screenshot_description.html
> 3. use the ALT attribute for the screenshot image to point the user
towards the
> LONGDESC -- ALT="Description of the screen shot of the dialog used to
> BLINK element"
> this would allow someone with image rendering turned off (or for whom
> rendering is superfluous) to get an idea of what the screenshot
> the use of a hyperlink to point to the URI of a LONGDESC is an "Until user
> agents..." technique for exposing LONGDESCs that i would like to "see"
added to
> the WCAG techniques document, as it is a strategy that is more palatable
> those who bankroll commercial sites than is the suggested "D-link"
> please refer also to my comments on the topic archived at:
> and note that the examples of this technique that are implemented at
> Obscura (and referenced in the above-mentioned post) are encoded using a
> "hidden" style declaration because
> a) "display : none" isn't very widely supported, and
> b) i was illustrating the use of the technique for a developer who did not
> large screen shots that i re-encoded using this technique to be visually
> demarcated with a border and for who objected to my setting the BORDER
> attribute in the IMG element to zero, as there are still UAs in common use
> alleged) that do not respect the BORDER="0" argument when used in an IMG
> declaration
> the genesis of using display : none (or the same-background-as-foreground
> kludge) to pass information on to assistive technologies came from my
> experience encoding HTML forms for commercial sites -- while i wanted to
> on supplemental semantic information about the number of radio buttons in
> particular field, for example, to speech and refreshable braille users,
> person paying me to do the work didn't want the quote extraneous unquote
> information to quote clutter unquote the form he had envisioned, so i used
> stylesheets to hide the extra info...
> gregory.
> At 02:33 PM 10/21/99 -0400, you wrote:
> >Gregory makes a good point for including the Hx as replacements for
> >BLINK/MARQUEE. Another reason for suggesting Hx is that it might get the
> >user thinking about using these in the future instead of BLINK/MARQUEE.
> >
> >Should we also allow the author to change the BLINK/MARQUEE to something
> >else?
> >
> >To repair a BLINK/MARQUEE we could offer the author 3 choices:
> >1) remove it
> >2) change it to: [EM, STRONG, SPAN, (perhaps Hx)]
> >3) change it to: [enter your own tag]
> >
> >For example, here's how the A-Prompt dialog might look:
> >http://aprompt.snow.utoronto.ca/tags/blink1.html
> >
> >Chris
> ------------------------------------------------
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> blank piece of paper until the drops of blood
> form on your forehead.            -- Gene Fowler
> ------------------------------------------------
> Gregory J. Rosmaita <unagi69@concentric.net>
> WebMonster and Minister of Propaganda, VICUG NYC
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