- From: Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:12:17 -0500
- To: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>
- CC: EOWG <w3c-wai-eo@w3.org>
Thanks for the comments and for feeding the discussion, Shadi. Replies below, including *questions for EOWG*. Shadi Abou-Zahra wrote: > Hi all, > > This update is much better in my opinion. Some questions: Good. It's still an early draft and needs lots of work. More opinions, comments, and questions encouraged from all. > # "Accessibility is about not disabling people" - interesting word play > though a little unexpected. In formal settings I often hear the term > "excluding" rather than "disabling". Will this term work in a general > setting? Will people understand the idea behind it? I was going for unexpected in this draft, for discussion. <grin> These are good questions. EOWG folks, what do you think? The full sentence is: "Accessibility is about not disabling people from using your website because they can't hear, move, see, or understand well." fyi, Liam's draft said: "Inaccessible web pages are badly written. They disable people. " > # Examples - the alt-text example is quite lengthy and explains some of > the auxiliary benefits but the others don't. Is that a bug or feature? The transcript one does: "as well as to search engines and other technologies that can't hear.". > I'd personally prefer few sentences *with links to related documents* > about these carry-over benefits (such as to mobile resources etc). I agree in principle. However, we don't have a short explanation of the other benefits of alt text or other short bits to link to. All we have is the mobile overlap document, but that's focused differently and only on one point. Are you proposing that we create a new document(s)? (We do have on the future deliverables list the possibility of a slideset for the business case. Perhaps one of the slides would have this info... but it won't be available for some time.) Shadi & EOWG: Ideas on how to address this in the short-term? > # Keyboard Image - how about an image of a public information kiosk? I > know that accessibility is not about getting a kiosk to work but the > device independence aspect could be clarified that way (and further > underline the carry-over benefits of accessibility). hum - Nice example of ubiquitous web; however, I think many would miss it, not knowing the web is used on kiosks. EOWG folks: What is your perspective on this point? ~Shawn > Best, > Shadi > > > Shawn Henry wrote: >> EOWG, >> >> New rough concept drafts of the Accessibility page for beta.w3.org are >> now available. *These are rough, unapproved ideas for discussion*. >> Please focus on overall issues (not detailed "wordsmithing") and >> realize these are individuals' ideas that are no where near agreement >> or completion. >> >> Please use the Analysis and Changelog page as your main page for this >> work. It is: >> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/changelogs/cl-2009-w3c-site-redesign >> >> * See that the goals and audiences are different from most of the WAI >> pages. >> >> * The first link is to the Accessibility page - latest version. >> >> * Right under there are links to examples HTML & CSS, >> Internationalization. Skimming through those you can see the type of >> information we might want to cover. Also note that much of the wrapper >> is a template defined by the W3C website redesign. >> >> * Previous drafts, links to minutes, email threads, and such are under >> "References and version notes". There are three very different drafts >> since last Friday: >> - "17 Aug 2009 draft - a universality experimental version" is playing >> with the broader view of universality. Note that we are not planning >> to make this shift, yet the draft was an interesting exercise based on >> the 14 EOWG teleconference discussion. >> - "18 Aug 2009 draft L - the minimalist version" is another >> perspective resulting from that discussion. (note that, while >> eloquent, this one doesn't use the current beta.w3.org template >> design, as noted in previous email) >> - "14-18 Aug EOWG mailing list archives" has several e-mails that are >> relevant, with subject "Re: stab at betaw3" >> >> Please look over these drafts, and the latest at >> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/4betaW3org/accessibility-new-w3c >> >> Feel free to send comments to the list and/or prepare for discussion >> at the upcoming EOWG teleconference. >> >> Regards, >> ~Shawn >> >> >> ----- >> Shawn Lawton Henry >> W3C Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) >> e-mail: shawn@w3.org >> phone: +1.617.395.7664 >> about: http://www.w3.org/People/Shawn/ >> >> >
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