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Re: SV: Success Criteria 3.1.5 violates academic freedom on my opinion and could not be practiced by universities.

From: Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 07:22:18 -0600
Message-ID: <4790A80A.7090605@w3.org>
To: "EOWG (E-mail)" <w3c-wai-eo@w3.org>

Yes, this is mentioned in the definition and explained in detail in "Reading Level: Understanding SC 3.1.5" at http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/meaning-supplements.html

Perhaps it is important to add a link to that explanation with the definitions at http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#lowseceddef

...I also wonder about somehow moving the definition of "primary education level" with the definition of "lower secondary education level" since that's the only place it's referred to.

~Shawn

Helle Bjarnø wrote:
> HI Sylvie, Wayne and EO
> I think this have been discussed before. And as I remember there is an U.N. or UNESCO definition for educational levels that should be generally accepted. I cannot find the link but found descriptions in Wikipedia under education systems: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education#Education_systems 
> And from here it is related to educational systems around the world.
> I also agree with Wayne about the exceptions. There are cases where a text requires reading skills of a higher or more specific character. 
> 
> Cheers
> Helle
> 
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: w3c-wai-eo-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-eo-request@w3.org] På vegne af Sylvie duchateau
> Sendt: 18. januar 2008 09:36
> Til: Wayne Dick
> Cc: EOWG (E-mail)
> Emne: Re: Success Criteria 3.1.5 violates academic freedom on my opinion and could not be practiced by universities.
> 
> 
> Hello Wayne and all,
> I have also concerns about this success criterion, as I think, it is 
> difficult to evaluate what is the lower secondary education level. I 
> wonder if this level is the same in any country. How can this be adapted 
> to another country than the US? How is this level specified?
> Best
> Sylvie
> 
> Wayne Dick a écrit :
>> 3.1.5 Reading Level: When text requires reading ability more advanced 
>> than the lower secondary education level, supplemental content, or a 
>> version  that does not require reading ability more advanced than the 
>> lower secondary education level, is available. (Level AAA) How to Meet 
>> 3.1.5 Understanding 3.1.5
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>> I am not sure that a posting of, poetry, creative writing, philosophy, 
>> physics, biochemistry, statistics or mathematics that required first 
>> and second year work university work in the given major could be 
>> expressed at a lower secondary educational level.  If we adopt this 
>> criteria then the instructional materials of advanced courses can 
>> never meet Level AAA.  Do we want to create a level that an entire 
>> sector cannot meet?
>>
>> I think we should create some exception language like:  unless 
>> material cannot be simplified or the intent of the writing is to use 
>> language in specific ways.
>>
>> This is dangerously close to censorship, and we never know how it 
>> could be used.
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>> Wayne
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