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Minutes of the AUWG meeting of 9 May 2011

From: Jeanne Spellman <jeanne@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 08:11:33 -0400
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Minutes:
http://www.w3.org/2011/05/09-au-minutes

Action Items:
    [NEW] ACTION: Consider how to set a minimum criteria for A.3.1
    [NEW] ACTION: JR in A.3.5.1, use "web content being edited" to be
    more clear that this refers to editing views
    [NEW] ACTION: JR to fix typo in A.4.1 - GL17 udo -> undo
    [NEW] ACTION: JR to update A.3.6 to add the condition "If the
    authoring tool has its own display and control settings, then the
    authoring tools...
    [NEW] ACTION: JR to update A.3.6.3 to read " The authoring tool
    respects changes in platform display and control settings chosen by
    the user."
    [NEW] ACTION: JR to update answer to IBM24 to better address mobile
    [NEW] ACTION: JR to update the response for OC7 to take into acount
    Alex's comment
    [NEW] ACTION: JR work in "Focus is moved and the match is made
    visible to the author" to A.3.5.1
    [NEW] ACTION: JR in A.3.5.1, use "web content being edited" to be
    more clear that this refers to editing views


Text of Minutes:

    [1]W3C

       [1] http://www.w3.org/

                                 WAI AU

09 May 2011

    [2]Agenda

       [2] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2011AprJun/0040.html

    See also: [3]IRC log

       [3] http://www.w3.org/2011/05/09-au-irc

Attendees

    Present
           Jeanne, Jan, Alex, Cherie, Greg, Tim_Boland

    Regrets
           Jutta_T., Sarah_P., Alessandro_M.

    Chair
           Jan Richards

    Scribe
           jeanne

Contents

      * [4]Topics
          1. [5]1. Disseminating the public drafts
          2. [6]2. The survey for reviewing the AA comments:
          3. [7]A.3.1 - MS39
          4. [8]A.3.1 - MS40
          5. [9]A.3.1 - IBM24
          6. [10]A.3.5 - WCAGWG24
          7. [11]A.3.5 - MS41
          8. [12]A.3.5 - IBM30
          9. [13]A.3.5 - IBM31
         10. [14]A.3.6 - UAAG5
         11. [15]A.3.6 - MS42
         12. [16]A.3.6 - MS44
         13. [17]A.3.6 - IBM32
         14. [18]A.4.1 - GL36
      * [19]Summary of Action Items
      _________________________________________________________

    <Jan> scribe: jeanne

1. Disseminating the public drafts

    JR: I encourage people to keep disseminating public drafts in their
    organizaitons.

    <Jan> JR: Just a reminder to disseminate the public WDs.

2. The survey for reviewing the AA comments:

    <Jan> [20]http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110503/results

      [20] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110503/results

A.3.1 - MS39

    JR: We wanted efficiency of keyboard navigation

    AL: we either need to make it more precise or more vague.
    ... we narrowed it down to keyboard navigation - more shortcuts are
    used to execute something, not navigation.
    ... it is not usually used for jumping to navigation. The SC is
    framed in such way that the SC is only about navigation instead of
    execution.

    JR: It includes execution as well as navigation. But at what point
    do we draw the line?

    <Jan> ACTION: Consider how to set a minimum criteria for A.3.1
    [recorded in
    [21]http://www.w3.org/2011/05/09-au-minutes.html#action01]

    <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Consider

    <Jan> ACTION: JR Consider how to set a minimum criteria for A.3.1
    [recorded in
    [22]http://www.w3.org/2011/05/09-au-minutes.html#action02]

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-328 - Consider how to set a minimum
    criteria for A.3.1 [on Jan Richards - due 2011-05-16].

    The authoring tool user interface includes mechanisms to make
    keyboard access more efficient than sequential keyboard use.

A.3.1 - MS40

    The previous proposal was from Jeanne

    JR: Emphasis is for keyboard access and execution, not just keyboard
    navigation.

    <Jan> [23]http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110503/results

      [23] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110503/results

A.3.1 - IBM24

    JS: Reusing the same answer doesn't work, because of the mobile use
    case.

    JR: We need to spend more time saying what this would look like in a
    mobile device'

    <Jan> ACTION: JR to update answer to IBM24 to better address mobile
    [recorded in
    [24]http://www.w3.org/2011/05/09-au-minutes.html#action03]

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-329 - Update answer to IBM24 to better
    address mobile [on Jan Richards - due 2011-05-16].

A.3.5 - WCAGWG24

    <Jan> Resolution: Accept wording for A.3.5 - WCAGWG24

A.3.5 - MS41

    AL: This is for web content, therefore it is a UAAG requirement.

    JS: Since this is for the editing view, it needs to be built into
    the software.

    AL: The problem with ATAG is saying where does the authoring
    function stop? This goes too far into other areas that are not
    authoring.

    [JR gives examples of javascript search vs. using the browser search
    function.]

    AL: if the tool is web based, the browser covers it. If it is
    desktop output, and it uses their own emulator, then the emulator
    provides this search. If the tool provides its own rendering engine,
    then say that. This doesn't say editing view search.

    JR: propose - "web content being edited". That is a defined term
    which is clear about that.

    AL: When it is a web based authoring tool, then the browser function
    would be used.

    JR: It's more like it uses the built-in structure of the browser.

    <Jan> ACTION: JRin A.3.5.1, use "web content being edited" to be
    more clear that this refers to editing views [recorded in
    [25]http://www.w3.org/2011/05/09-au-minutes.html#action04]

    <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - JRin

    <Jan> ACTION: JR in A.3.5.1, use "web content being edited" to be
    more clear that this refers to editing views [recorded in
    [26]http://www.w3.org/2011/05/09-au-minutes.html#action05]

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-330 - In A.3.5.1, use "web content being
    edited" to be more clear that this refers to editing views [on Jan
    Richards - due 2011-05-16].

    CE: There is text from UAAG.

    <Jan> JR: What about focus is moved to the match?

    JR: I am wary of using "viewport". After years of discussion UAWG
    still discusses it. What about focus is moved to the match.

    AL: viewport is used in WCAG.

    CE: The match is made visible and the focus is moved to that match

    <Jan> Cherie: But might not be visible

    <Jan> Cherie: Focus is moved and the match is made visible to the
    author

    +1

    <Jan> ACTION: JR work in "Focus is moved and the match is made
    visible to the author" to A.3.5.1 [recorded in
    [27]http://www.w3.org/2011/05/09-au-minutes.html#action06]

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-331 - Work in "Focus is moved and the
    match is made visible to the author" to A.3.5.1 [on Jan Richards -
    due 2011-05-16].

    <Jan> ACTION: JR to update the response for OC7 to take into acount
    Alex's comment [recorded in
    [28]http://www.w3.org/2011/05/09-au-minutes.html#action07]

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-332 - Update the response for OC7 to take
    into acount Alex's comment [on Jan Richards - due 2011-05-16].

A.3.5 - IBM30

    <Jan> Resolution: All accept JR's change to IBM30

A.3.5 - IBM31

    <Jan> Alex: This is taken care of by change above

A.3.6 - UAAG5

    <Jan> Resolution: Update numbewring.

A.3.6 - MS42

    Add "If the authoring tool has its own display and control settings,
    then the authoring tools...

    <scribe> ACTION: JR to update A.3.6 to add the condition "If the
    authoring tool has its own display and control settings, then the
    authoring tools... [recorded in
    [29]http://www.w3.org/2011/05/09-au-minutes.html#action08]

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-333 - Update A.3.6 to add the condition
    "If the authoring tool has its own display and control settings,
    then the authoring tools... [on Jan Richards - due 2011-05-16].

A.3.6 - MS44

    The authoring tool applies platform display settings and control
    settings.

    AL: it's a little clunky. It means, when you change the screen
    resolution and contrast in the OS, then the app changes
    appropriately.

    CE: Respecting changes in display and control settings of the
    underlying platform chosen by the user.

    Greg: Defer to the user settings

    CE: The authoring tools respects platform display settings and
    control settings chosen by the user.

    AL: I don't have a better suggestion - I still think "respect" is
    unclear.

    CE: Since respect is defined, it will be ok.

    AL: Respecting changes in platform display and control settings
    chosen by the user.

    The authoring tool respects changes in platform display and control
    settings chosen by the user.

    <scribe> ACTION: JR to update A.3.6.3 to read " The authoring tool
    respects changes in platform display and control settings chosen by
    the user." [recorded in
    [30]http://www.w3.org/2011/05/09-au-minutes.html#action09]

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-334 - Update A.3.6.3 to read " The
    authoring tool respects changes in platform display and control
    settings chosen by the user." [on Jan Richards - due 2011-05-16].

A.3.6 - IBM32

    AL: My comment is already addressed.

    <scribe> ACTION: JR to fix typo in A.4.1 - GL17 udo -> undo
    [recorded in
    [31]http://www.w3.org/2011/05/09-au-minutes.html#action10]

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-335 - Fix typo in A.4.1 - GL17 udo -> undo
    [on Jan Richards - due 2011-05-16].

A.4.1 - GL36

    CE: Does anyone have the wording?

    "Authors can sequentially reverse a series of reversible authoring
    actions. "

    No objections.

Summary of Action Items

    [NEW] ACTION: Consider how to set a minimum criteria for A.3.1
    [recorded in
    [32]http://www.w3.org/2011/05/09-au-minutes.html#action01]
    [NEW] ACTION: JR Consider how to set a minimum criteria for A.3.1
    [recorded in
    [33]http://www.w3.org/2011/05/09-au-minutes.html#action02]
    [NEW] ACTION: JR in A.3.5.1, use "web content being edited" to be
    more clear that this refers to editing views [recorded in
    [34]http://www.w3.org/2011/05/09-au-minutes.html#action05]
    [NEW] ACTION: JR to fix typo in A.4.1 - GL17 udo -> undo [recorded
    in [35]http://www.w3.org/2011/05/09-au-minutes.html#action10]
    [NEW] ACTION: JR to update A.3.6 to add the condition "If the
    authoring tool has its own display and control settings, then the
    authoring tools... [recorded in
    [36]http://www.w3.org/2011/05/09-au-minutes.html#action08]
    [NEW] ACTION: JR to update A.3.6.3 to read " The authoring tool
    respects changes in platform display and control settings chosen by
    the user." [recorded in
    [37]http://www.w3.org/2011/05/09-au-minutes.html#action09]
    [NEW] ACTION: JR to update answer to IBM24 to better address mobile
    [recorded in
    [38]http://www.w3.org/2011/05/09-au-minutes.html#action03]
    [NEW] ACTION: JR to update the response for OC7 to take into acount
    Alex's comment [recorded in
    [39]http://www.w3.org/2011/05/09-au-minutes.html#action07]
    [NEW] ACTION: JR work in "Focus is moved and the match is made
    visible to the author" to A.3.5.1 [recorded in
    [40]http://www.w3.org/2011/05/09-au-minutes.html#action06]
    [NEW] ACTION: JRin A.3.5.1, use "web content being edited" to be
    more clear that this refers to editing views [recorded in
    [41]http://www.w3.org/2011/05/09-au-minutes.html#action04]

    [End of minutes]
      _________________________________________________________
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