At 04:45 AM 10/31/2004, Charles McCathieNevile wrote: >Presumably writing actual techniques for ATAG is a helpful thing to >do...whaddaya reckon? What I reckon is that using/demonstrating actual techniques, rather than merely writing them is even more helpful, thus my call to this particular panoply of doers to do so with the instant document. If we can dance this dance it could well enhance our credibility in re our guideline songs' siren claims. When the document recommends a certain font, it should demonstrate the "why" through exemplification: show, don't just tell. I don't know how to make the "expansion" of text (to reveal a clear/simple alternative) seamless and easily achieved but I know I see it frequently in things like the "what's this" implementation in lots of applications - or even the tool tip phenomenon. Practically no WAI documents do any of this and if it is desirable to recommend it's even more important to institute - hence the "eat our own dog food" urge that so often gets "acceptance" without implementation. I recommend starting with Lisa's piece and have actually done a few little things therein, but my programming skills are somewhere between rusty and non-existent so I'm calling for help. And hoping that it might spread to many other "documents". Partly because Bob Regan is aggressive within MacroMedia and that their DreamWeaver shows a little promise, I am optimistic that tools like it will incorporate edge-pushing things like structure-extracting tools (in ATAG it might be handy to separately isolate the "rationales" as a group, for one example). In my long-ago incarnation as an assembly-language snob I disdained any high level languages but to pretend that I could use a text editor to achieve what is fairly trivial using something like XML Spy is untenable. If we can get "effects" that further our accessibility goals and said effects can be fairly trivially achieved by some tool will hasten the appearance of ATAG-compliant systems and these in turn will become inclusive of User Agents that recursively include the generation of content, especially including a means by which folks who used to be considered passive audiences will become annotators/indexers/creators rather than empty vessels to be filled by the superior knowledge of elite authors. -- Love. Everyone/everything/everywhere/always connected --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.774 / Virus Database: 521 - Release Date: 10/7/2004Received on Sunday, 31 October 2004 14:39:29 GMT
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