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RE: Success criteria proposal for ATAG 2.0 1.1 and 1.2

From: Tim Boland <frederick.boland@nist.gov>
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:16:32 -0400
Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20040713090717.00b06d38@mailserver.nist.gov>
To: Jan Richards <jan.richards@utoronto.ca>
Cc: w3c-wai-au@w3.org

Can we link to your "ATAG references to WCAG" document here?  Otherwise it 
may be unclear as to what version of WCAG is being referenced.   What makes 
an interface "web content" or not?   Is there a definition of "web content" 
somewhere that we could use? This needs to be made clearer.   The 
definition should support a partitioning such that an authoring tool 
interface is in one category or the other, but not both at the same time..

PS I think that everyplace WCAG is referenced in guidelines and techniques, 
the acronym should be linked to the "ATAG references to WCAG" document, so 
a reader can find out right away what is being asked for.. At 03:14 AM 
7/13/2004 -0400, Jan Richards wrote:

>Hi Roberto,
>
>Thanks for pointing out my error! That should have read:
>
>Proposal is to modify ATAG 2.0 success criteria 1.1 and 1.2 as follows:
>
>Success criteria for 1.1:

Might want to say "all authoring tool interfaces.."


>1. Authoring tool interfaces that are also Web content must conform to

might read easier to say "that are not also Web content.."

>[WCAG].
>2. Authoring tool interfaces that not are also Web content must conform
>to [ISO16071].

Maybe should link back to where we define what "conform to ISO16071 means" 
(I think we
define precisely what is meant by "conformance to ISO16071" in the 
guidelines document?)


>Success criteria for 1.2:

Same comments may apply for 1.2 as for 1.1.   What precisely does "editable 
by the tool"
mean?


>1. In authoring tool interfaces that are also Web content, at least one
>editing method must conform to [WCAG] for each element and object
>property that is editable by the tool.
>2. In authoring tool interfaces that not are also Web content, At least
>one editing method must conform to [ISO16071] for each element and object
>property that is editable by the tool.
>
>--
>Jan Richards, User Interface Design Specialist
>Adaptive Technology Resource Centre (ATRC), University of Toronto
>
>   Email: jan.richards@utoronto.ca
>   Web:   http://jan.atrc.utoronto.ca
>   Phone: 416-946-7060
>   Fax:   416-971-2896
>
>
>Quoting "Roberto Scano (IWA/HWG)" <rscano@iwa-italy.org>:
>
> >
> > Sorry, but must'n be :
> > 1. Conform to wcag
> > 2. Conform to ISO16071
> >
> >   1. Authoring tool interfaces that are also Web content must conform to
> > WCAG
> >
> > Authoring tool interfaces that not are also Web content must conform to
> > ISO16071
> >
> > How can we ask to conform to WEB CONTENT guidelines to Authoring tool
> > interfaces that not are web content?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Messaggio originale -----
> >     Da: "Jan Richards"<jan.richards@utoronto.ca>
> >     Inviato: 12/07/04 18.28.43
> >     A: "w3c-wai-au@w3.org"<w3c-wai-au@w3.org>
> >     Oggetto: Success criteria proposal for ATAG 2.0 1.1 and 1.2
> >
> >
> >     Proposal is to modify ATAG 2.0 success criteria 1.1 and 1.2 as follows:
> >
> >     Success criteria for 1.1:
> >
> >     1. Authoring tool interfaces that are also Web content must conform to
> >     [ISO16071].
> >     2. Authoring tool interfaces that not are also Web content must conform
> > to
> >     WCAG.
> >
> >     Success criteria for 1.2:
> >
> >     1. In authoring tool interfaces that are also Web content, at least one
> >
> >     editing method must conform to [ISO16071] for each element and object
> > property
> >     that is editable by the tool.
> >     2. In authoring tool interfaces that not are also Web content, At least
> > one
> >     editing method must conform to WCAG for each element and object 
> property
> > that
> >     is editable by the tool.
> >
> >     Comments?
> >     -Jan
> >
> >     --
> >     Jan Richards, User Interface Design Specialist
> >     Adaptive Technology Resource Centre (ATRC), University of Toronto
> >
> >       Email: jan.richards@utoronto.ca
> >       Web:   http://jan.atrc.utoronto.ca
> >       Phone: 416-946-7060
> >       Fax:   416-971-2896
> >
> >
> >     Quoting Jan Richards <jan.richards@utoronto.ca>:
> >
> >     > Attached.
> >     >
> >     > Cheers,
> >     > Jan
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > Quoting Matt May <mcmay@w3.org>:
> >     >
> >     > >
> >     > > We have joined the telecronference as of 9am ET today. The meeting
> > will
> >     > > continue until 6pm, when we have a joint telecon with the WCAG WG.
> >     > >
> >     > > +1-617-761-6200, code 2894#
> >     > >
> >     > > -
> >     > > m
> >     > >
> >     > >
> >     >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Messaggio troncato. Toccare Modifica->Segna per il download per recuperare
> > la restante parte.]
> >
> >
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