W3C home > Mailing lists > Public > w3c-sgml-wg@w3.org > November 1996

Re: Recent ERB votes

From: <lee@sq.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 96 13:53:29 EST
Message-Id: <9611071853.AA17365@sqrex.sq.com>
To: W3C-SGML-WG@w3.org, paul@arbortext.com
> what SGML authoring tools 
> would produce valid XML given document instances in your Shakespeare 
> and Religious Works collections?
> 
> Assuming neither Author/Editor nor Adept Editor (whose output, I
> believe, are very similar) are answers to the above question, 

A/E isn't (I think) because
(1) it won't let you put a PI before the DOCTYPE line
    under any circumstance right now
    (I haven't tried opening such a file in A/E, the assumption being
    that we will add XML support to A/E and HoTMetaL Pro)

(2) it doesn't handle whitespace in the same way (nor in the SGML way):
    all whitespace is retained.  This (it has been argued) is desirable
    in an editor.

(3) (currently) it does not handle EMPTY elements as per XML.
    There aren't any EMPTY elements in those DTDs; the version of the
    Psalter that Harry Gaylord and Robin Cover did is a better example,
    as they used EMPTY elements to represent the overlapping structures
    in that document that SGML tools can't easily handle.  (CONCUR would
    have been the obvious choice, although the TEI has a better way, as
    so often, using a linked list of id/idefs)

(4) the documents use a public identifier in the document to get at the
    DTD, and not a SYSTEM identifier that's a URL.

    No existing collection of SGML documents published with Panorama will
    work unchanged in XML.

> what
> would be the list of modifications necessary to convert what they would
> produce given document instances in your Shakespeare and Religious
> Works collections into valid XML?

I'll let Jon answer this :-) but most of it follows from what I have listed.

Lee
Received on Thursday, 7 November 1996 13:53:46 EST

This archive was generated by hypermail pre-2.1.9 : Wednesday, 24 September 2003 10:03:41 EDT