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Fw: [closed] xmlsch-10 canonical syntax

From: Dave Beckett <dave.beckett@bristol.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:19:46 +0100
To: w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org
Message-Id: <20031006121946.7b98e200.dave.beckett@bristol.ac.uk>

This 'formal dissent' from the XML Schema WG amounts to objecting to RDF
Core's charter which is a document from March 2001 and we didn't ask
them for a review of it.

I think that this thus makes their original comment (xmlsch-10) and
reply out of scope and not thus this isn't a last call issue.  Or if it
is, our response to the director is "out of scope, objects to the WG charter"

Either way, I can't see what to say to them now.

Dave

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Date: 03 Oct 2003 22:21:47 +0200
From: "C. M. Sperberg-McQueen" <cmsmcq@acm.org>
To: Dave Beckett <dave.beckett@bristol.ac.uk>
Cc: W3C XML Schema IG <w3c-xml-schema-ig@w3.org>, www-rdf-comments@w3.org
Subject: Re: [closed] xmlsch-10 canonical syntax


Colleagues,

thank you for your response to our comment.  A full account
of our formal responses to your responses is attached to
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-comments/2003OctDec/0011.html
For the sake of those who are trying to track this particular issue
using the email archives, our response on this topic is given 
below.

-C. M. Sperberg-McQueen
 for the XML Schema WG


On Tue, 2003-04-29 at 21:03, Dave Beckett wrote:
> Dear Colleagues
> 
> The RDF Core WG has considered your last call comment captured in
> 
>     http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/20030123-issues/#xmlsch-10
> 
> (raised in section
>   "4.4. Normative specification of XML grammar (policy, substantive)" of
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-comments/2003JanMar/0489.html )
> 
> and decided
> 
>     http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Apr/0361.html
> 
> to postpone it.
> 
> A canonical subset of RDF/XML was considered by the RDF Core WG.
> However the WG believes that due to the way mixed namespaces are used
> in RDF/XML it is not possible to define such a subset that:
> 
>   a) can represent all the RDF graphs that RDF/XML can represent
>   b) can be described by an DTD or an XML Schema.
> 
> An alternative would be to define a new syntax that is describable
> with a DTD or an XML Schema but doing so is beyond the scope of RDF
> Core's current charter.  We note that the XHTML WG have expressed
> interest in working on such a syntax and have been encouraged to do
> so by RDF Core.  RDF Core also welcomes XML Schema's offer to help
> with this work.
> 
> We will add this issue to the RDFCore postponed issues list at:
> 
>    http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdfms-validating-embedded-rdf
> 
> Please reply to this email, copying www-rdf-comments@w3.org indicating
> whether this decision is acceptable.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Dave

We realize that this is a difficult area, but we believe that it would
be  a  mistake  for  W3C to move forward with a new version of the RDF
specifications  without  undertaking  the  work  of  a revision of the
syntax.

We  regret  that we must dissent formally from your resolution of this
issue.  The  current mismatch between RDF syntax and off-the-shelf XML
tools  has  not  become  easier to bear as time goes on; we believe it
must be addressed.

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