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Re: Erratum to XML 1.0 spec to allow xml:lang=""

From: Patrick Stickler <patrick.stickler@nokia.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 14:40:37 +0300
Message-ID: <002a01c25fd1$5fe4f800$864416ac@NOE.Nokia.com>
To: "ext Jeremy Carroll" <jjc@hplb.hpl.hp.com>, "Brian McBride" <bwm@hplb.hpl.hp.com>, "RDF Core" <w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org>


IMO, lang="" in the abstract graph should be illegal.

I would rather see xml:lang="" as an RDF/XML mechanism
only, that has no explicit representation in the graph.

The whole point of adding xml:lang="" is to turn off any
higher scope xml:lang assertion, and the results in the
graph should be the same as if no xml:lang attribute had
been used at all in the RDF/XML, insofar as its effect
on literal node labels in the graph.

Thus:

   <rdf:RDF ... xml:lang="en">
   ...
   <rdf:Description>
      <foo>bar</foo>
   </rdf:Description>
   <rdf:Description xml:lang="">
      <foo>bas</foo>
   </rdf:Description>

gives us the literal nodes bar-en and bas (but not bas-"" or
any such null language indication in the abstract syntax).

Cheers,

Patrick

[Patrick Stickler, Nokia/Finland, (+358 50) 483 9453, patrick.stickler@nokia.com]


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ext Jeremy Carroll" <jjc@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
To: "Brian McBride" <bwm@hplb.hpl.hp.com>; "RDF Core" <w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org>
Sent: 19 September, 2002 12:43
Subject: RE: Erratum to XML 1.0 spec to allow xml:lang=""


> 
> 
> In the abstract syntax I could specify that either lang is oblig and
> defaults to "" or that lang="" is illegal. Probably the former is most in
> tune with XML. DaveB might then need some wordsmithing.
> 
> Jeremy
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: w3c-rdfcore-wg-request@w3.org
> > [mailto:w3c-rdfcore-wg-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Brian McBride
> > Sent: 19 September 2002 10:21
> > To: RDF Core
> > Subject: Fwd: Erratum to XML 1.0 spec to allow xml:lang=""
> >
> >
> >
> > Affects rdf/xml syntax?
> >
> > Brian
> >
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> > >As previously mentioned [1], [2], at the request of the I18N WG [3],
> > >the XML Core WG has been considering whether the explicit licensing
> > >of the use of xml:lang="" to "un-declare" a language should be made
> > >an erratum to XML 1.0 or merely included as part of XML 1.1.
> > >
> > >The XML Core WG has debated this issue thoroughly, seeked the
> > >input of various groups (including chairs, XML Plenary, and
> > >various public email groups), and canvased current implementations.
> > >
> > >It has been decided that the optimal situation is to issue this as an
> > >erratum to the XML 1.0 spec.  Hence, you can see this reflected in the
> > >current Errata document at http://www.w3.org/XML/xml-V10-2e-errata#E41 .
> > >
> > >The XML Core WG thanks all who provided feedback in this decision.
> > >
> > >Paul Grosso, co-chair, XML Core WG
> > >
> > >[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-plenary/2002Aug/0000
> > >[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-plenary/2002Aug/0026
> > >[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-core-wg/2002AprJun/0161
> >
> >
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