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Re: Normative vs. non-normative references

From: Norman Walsh <Norman.Walsh@Sun.COM>
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 15:44:18 -0500
To: reagle@w3.org
Cc: w3c-ietf-xmldsig@w3.org
Message-ID: <87u1tbfpi5.fsf@nwalsh.com>
/ Joseph Reagle <reagle@w3.org> was heard to say:
| I remember once asking if there was a normative definition of normative. 
| (This certainly came up in questions of dependencies between 
| specifications.) Regardless, never saw anything in writing and a convention 
| for the W3C has yet to appear [1] though some WGs use the distinction. 

My own feeling is that a reference should be normative if and only if
the specification making the reference includes a definition from the
referenced specification.

So, if you say, "whitespace (as defined by production 3 of the XML
Rec) ..." you're making a normative reference to the XML Rec.

If you say, "constructed from the object model of the document, for
example the DOM Level 1 object model or the XPath data model, ..."
then you're not making a normative reference.

However, I have to admit that my own interest in this case was for
reasons having nothing to do with technically understanding the spec,
so it's not something I feel very strongly about. But I do think specs
editors should make the distinction clear.

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