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RE: Links to latest bis working docs

From: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 22:09:25 +0200
To: "Lisa Dusseault" <lisa@xythos.com>, "'Clemm, Geoff'" <gclemm@rational.com>, <w3c-dist-auth@w3.org>
Message-ID: <JIEGINCHMLABHJBIGKBCEECNFFAA.julian.reschke@gmx.de>

Lisa,

my complaint was that it lists only one of many reasons for rejecting yet,
but also states that there are interoperable implementations. They may
exist, but at least one of them (IIS) does not conform to RFC2616 (HTTP), so
I don't think it qualifies as relevant implementation.

Julian

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org
> [mailto:w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Lisa Dusseault
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:06 PM
> To: 'Clemm, Geoff'; w3c-dist-auth@w3.org
> Subject: RE: Links to latest bis working docs
>
>
>
> Please note that the "Translate" header does not appear in the "revised
> [2518] document".
>
> The "RFC2518 Changes" document discusses issues that have been brought
> up on the list -- including the proposal that had been made, on the
> list, to standardize the Translate header.  This document is only to
> help keep track of issues (together with Jason's page) and RFC bis
> changes, and is not on any standards track.  Note also that this
> document briefly, and I believe correctly, summarizes that the working
> group rejected the solution.
>
> If you still have problems with this characterization and where it
> appears, please explain.
>
> Lisa
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org
> [mailto:w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org]
> > On Behalf Of Clemm, Geoff
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 12:26 PM
> > To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org
> > Subject: RE: Links to latest bis working docs
> >
> >
> > I agree with Julian.  Since the consensus of the working group
> > was to reject the Translate header approach (for the reasons
> > Julian mentions, and others), I believe it should not be introduced
> > in the revised document, and definitely should not be characterized as
> an
> > "interoperable solution".
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Geoff
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Julian Reschke [mailto:julian.reschke@gmx.de]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 2:37 PM
> > To: Lisa Dusseault; w3c-dist-auth@w3.org
> > Subject: RE: Links to latest bis working docs
> >
> >
> >
> > Just two comments on:
> >
> > 1.1       Source property
> > The Source property has not had interoperability demonstrated, but
> > messages
> > to the list support keeping some way of retrieving the source of
> > dynamically-generated Web pages.  An interoperable solution exists
> (the
> > Microsoft Translate header) but has received rejection on the list due
> to
> > its lack of support for dynamically-generated resources with multiple
> > source
> > files.
> >
> >
> > - the Translate header violates RFC2616 which explicitly says that
> variant
> > handling is *not* supposed to switch between "getting the source" and
> > "executing a script"
> >
> > - the actual implementation in IIS breaks RFC2616 in that it doesn't
> list
> > "Translate" as request header on which the GET result varies.
> >
> >
> > Regards, Julian
> >
> >
> > --
> > <green/>bytes GmbH -- http://www.greenbytes.de -- tel:+492512807760
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org
> [mailto:w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org]On
> > Behalf Of Lisa Dusseault
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 5:07 PM
> > To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org
> > Cc: joels@microsoft.com
> > Subject: Links to latest bis working docs
> >
> >
> > I promised yesterday I'd put up links to the most recent
> work-in-progress.
> > http://www.sharemation.com/~milele/public/dav/draft-ietf-webdav-
> > rfc2518bis.d
> > oc
> > http://www.sharemation.com/~milele/public/dav/RFC2518%20Changes.doc
> > Sometime after the Interop, I'll be doing the real formatted draft
> thing
> > of
> > course.
> > Lisa
>
Received on Tuesday, 10 September 2002 16:09:58 GMT

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