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RE: Advanced Collections conference call minutes

From: Yaron Goland <yarong@microsoft.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:30:52 -0800
Message-ID: <3FF8121C9B6DD111812100805F31FC0D08792D42@RED-MSG-59>
To: "'ejw@ics.uci.edu'" <ejw@ics.uci.edu>, WEBDAV WG <w3c-dist-auth@w3.org>
I would appreciate it if the collection meeting minutes were edited to say
something along the lines of: "Yaron, at the December 1998 IETF, stated that
he believed that no-passthrough was the equivalent of URL munging."

People generally do URL munging to save themselves a round trip. Instead of
trying to search for the resource you want to execute a method against, just
tack the search request to the end of the URL and let the server handle
everything for you. In the case of no-passthrough instead of discovering the
address of a resource which you can use to manage the reference you just use
the no-passthrough header. No-passthrough = true and you are editing the
reference resource. No-passthrough = false and you are editing the resource
being referenced. The whole thing smells too much like the derefencing
mistake WebDAV tried early on (see:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-dist-auth/1998OctDec/0074.html).

On the other hand, one could look at no-passthrough as an argument to the
method which specifies if the method should be reflected or not.

It would be an interesting exercise to design a mechanism which allows you
to create new names for existing resources and then see what kind of errors
you have to handle because you went off-line. I bet the design issues would
be similar to weak references. I also bet the design would be a lot simpler
than the current referential resource design. So many interesting
problems... so little time.

						Yaron


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Whitehead [mailto:ejw@ics.uci.edu]
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 1999 5:13 PM
> To: WEBDAV WG
> Subject: Advanced Collections conference call minutes
> 
> 
> The minutes from the January 14, 1998 conference call on Advanced
> Collections have been placed on the WebDAV web site, at:
> 
> http://www.ics.uci.edu/pub/ietf/webdav/collection/dt/Minutes990114.txt
> 
> An intermediate draft of the Advanced Collections protocol 
> specification,
> produced for discussion during the conference call, is available at:
> 
> http://www.ics.uci.edu/pub/ietf/webdav/collection/dt/CollSpec021.txt
> 
> These are both also available via the WebDAV WG home page:
> 
> http://www.ics.uci.edu/pub/ietf/webdav/
> 
> Thanks are due to Judy Slein for her work in organizing the 
> conference call,
> producing the intermediate draft, and generating minutes so quickly
> afterwards.
> 
> - Jim
> 
Received on Monday, 18 January 1999 23:30:56 GMT

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